Pakistan Studies, Islamiyat and Urdu: Post your doubts here!

[Translucent231]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

well.. if you actually look at the act.. i would say that it was quite good lol it had seperate electorates.. provincial autonomy... fixed 1/3 muslims in central legislature.. sindh made province... these are all muslim demands and they were accepted and still he said they were rotten lol

the bad points you can get are :
1) Governor general had sooper dooper powers . he can deny any bill, dismiss any government and pass any legislation at his will.
2) the constitution shall have safeguards for the protection of muslim culture and muslim education,language,religion and charities. (THIS IS FROM M.A's 14 pts) this wasnt included.
3) The qualifications for voting were too high , while muslims were suffering from poverty.

this is all i can think off

 

[scouserlfc]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

oH YEAH VOTING RIGHTS IN THIS SENSE THAT SINCE THE BRITISH FIXED THE RIGHTS TO 25% AND ON PROPERTY AND THE MUSLIMS AT THAT TIME WERENT WEALTHY SO THIS WAS INJUSTICE SO HE ALSO MADE THIS A REASON FOR HIS OUTBURST ON THIS ACT

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

oH YEAH VOTING RIGHTS IN THIS SENSE THAT SINCE THE BRITISH FIXED THE RIGHTS TO 25% AND ON PROPERTY AND THE MUSLIMS AT THAT TIME WERENT WEALTHY SO THIS WAS INJUSTICE SO HE ALSO MADE THIS A REASON FOR HIS OUTBURST ON THIS ACT

yeah this can be a reason !!
Well waiting for more questions !!

 

[ashiqbal]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

hello guys i am new in this forum
i read all the questions and tried to solve them

however i have a little confusion

in the mark scheme it is said that u get top level ( level 3 in 7 marks and level 3 or 4 in 14 marks question) if you explain reasons. but the real question is that can uget the top marks without describing the events by just explaining it(this is what i do) or do u first have to describe then explain it, u see for most questions the explanation is further explanation of descriptions. However for questions about reforms 1909-1919 and 1940-1947, they are different as u can see below.

so do u have to give whole provisions of these reforms or just explain how the reforms were important?????

please reply and if anyone give an answer please do so.

(c) Were the Morley-Minto reforms the most important attempt by either the Muslims, the
Hindus or the British in seeking a solution to the problems in the sub-continent
between 1906 and 1920? Explain your answer.

Level 1: Simplistic statement [1-2]

Morley was the Secretary for State for India and Minto was the Viceroyof
India.

Level 2: Description of above [3-6]

The Imperial Council was enlarged to 60 members and the Provisional
Councils to 50 members in the larger states and 30 in the smaller ones.

Level 3: Explains one factor [7-10]

Level 4: Explains at least two factors (M-M to be explained for [9-13]
maximum marks)

The Morley-Minto Reforms became law in 1909 as the Indian Councils Act.
The importance of the Councils which were enlarged was to ensure that
Indian legislators were given a chance to express their opinions. The
British also accepted the right of Muslims to have a separate electorate.
However there were other attempts to solve the problems in the sub-
continent during these years. The Lucknow Pact of 1916 as an agreement
between the Muslims and Hindus which placed a number of political
demands to the British government in an attempt to show a united front and
produce common aims. Little was done by the British government about
the sub-continent during the First World War but shortly afterwards in 1919
came the Montague-Chelmsford Reforms. These Reforms disappointed
the Muslims and Hindus as they had hoped for greater concessions.
Central government reserved sweeping powers for itself with only minor
concessions for the locals. The Reforms did hold out concessions to
political parties provided that they accepted the right of the British to remain
in control. The Rowlatt Act of the same year increased the resentment of
the political parties by including the right of arrest without a warrant and
detention without bail.

Level 5: As Level 4: also produces a judgement or evaluation [14]

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

well what do you want to know ??

 

[ashiqbal]

ANALYSIS

SALAM again

how can u do the analysis? How much marks is it worth? because accoring to the syllabus, there are 4 marks for analysis and my teacher keeps saying that to me that i must give 4 reasons to support my analysis but as we all see there is only 1 mark for analysis to acheive full marks or level 5. please if anybody can give a sample of analysis of any question( one mentioned above) it would help me to unterstand

 

[ashiqbal]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

do u have to give whole provisions of these reforms or just explain how the reforms were important?????

(c) Were the Morley-Minto reforms the most important attempt by either the Muslims, the
Hindus or the British in seeking a solution to the problems in the sub-continent
between 1906 and 1920? Explain your answer.

Level 2: Description of above [3-6]

The Imperial Council was enlarged to 60 members and the Provisional
Councils to 50 members in the larger states and 30 in the smaller ones.

Level 4: Explains at least two factors (M-M to be explained for [9-13]
maximum marks)

The Morley-Minto Reforms became law in 1909 as the Indian Councils Act.
The importance of the Councils which were enlarged was to ensure that
Indian legislators were given a chance to express their opinions. The
British also accepted the right of Muslims to have a separate electorate.
However there were other attempts to solve the problems in the sub-
continent during these years.

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

W Salam
Listen there are two types of 14 marks questions
Q1 which has a statement and that statement has to be explained for 1-10 marks. 2 or 3 more reasons has to be explained for 3 marks and in the end your opinion.

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

another type of 14 mark question is the one which contains the word "Successful"
this has to be answered this way
-Success
-Failure
-Success
-Failure
Opinion

 

[ashiqbal]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

what should ur own opinion include?

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

The evaluation. e.g of this question
Q1) Was gandhi Jinnah talks the most Important event that led to partition of sub-continent? Explain your answer [14]

In my opinion though Gandhi Jinnah talk was important but it failed. However the real reason why sub-continent was partitioned was because of emergence of Lahore Resolution.

 

[ashiqbal]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

so no requirement for half page analysis?

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

No this is bascially the demand of CIE !!

 

[ashiqbal]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

and in the morley minto reforms, do i have to describe that
The Imperial Council was enlarged to 60 members and the Provisional Councils to 50 members in the larger states and 30 in the smaller ones.

or can we simply explain what happenned after it was enlarged that

The importance of the Councils which were enlarged was to ensure that Indian legislators were given a chance to express their opinions.

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

and in the morley minto reforms, do i have to describe that
The Imperial Council was enlarged to 60 members and the Provisional Councils to 50 members in the larger states and 30 in the smaller ones.

or can we simply explain what happenned after it was enlarged that

The importance of the Councils which were enlarged was to ensure that Indian legislators were given a chance to express their opinions.

haven't you read the Examiner Report ??? They say that Candiadates will not be given marks for Describing events rather they have to explain them !!

 

[ashiqbal]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

so no description required. ok thanks

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

what is the difference between Explaining and Describing ??

 

[ashiqbal]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

by the way can u atttempt all three questions if u only prepared from section 1 and 2. because that is what i was doing but i decided to prepare for the most oft repeated questions of section 3 in case there is a problemaltic question from sec 1 or 2.

any idea of which topics are the most important this time from sec three??

 

[ashiqbal]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

that is what i wanted to know really. ia m completely bunked when i come to this. can u please explain what they mean by that??

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

Re: HISTORY Rare questions !!

by the way can u atttempt all three questions if u only prepared from section 1 and 2. because that is what i was doing but i decided to prepare for the most oft repeated questions of section 3 in case there is a problemaltic question from sec 1 or 2.

any idea of which topics are the most important this time from sec three??

Well from Section 3 you can do problems faced by new government and also the Partition of Bangladesh as well as Ayub, Bhutto as Zia cannot come as it had already came in June 2010 paper