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any question ?? :D
 
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Abid357 said:
http://www.xtremepapers.me/CIE/index.php?dir=Cambridge%20IGCSE/0581%20-%20Mathematics%20Extended/&file=0581_w10_qp_41.pdf

Qns. 9 (a) (iv) to (vi) and also (b) (iii)... seems like I'm not getting the question :/
Q9. (a) (iv) Notice how the terms in this sequence( 3, 6, 9, 12,......150) are mutiples (multiplied by 3)of the sequence 1, 2, 3, 4,......, 50. So multiply your answer of the previous part ( 1275) by 3 to get the answer 3825.
(v) Simply insert n = 150 into the formula given in (ii) = 1/2 x 150 x 151 = 11, 325.
(vi) 11, 325 - 3825 = 7500.
In (b) (iii) again you have to insert n = 20 into the formula given at the start of the part.
Hope this helped. :)
 

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assalamoalaikum!!

i was abt to answer it..but anyways...see i said right that sequences are really easy!
 
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Thanks a lot abcde :)

Ehhem.. sequences aren't 'that' easy sometimes for me :/. I'm still confused with the part (a) (vi)...
 
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Abid357 said:
Thanks a lot abcde :)

Ehhem.. sequences aren't 'that' easy sometimes for me :/. I'm still confused with the part (a) (vi)...
Read the question very carefully again! If still stuck, I'll help.
 
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Nope, still not getting the question completely. Why are we finding the difference between the two numbers here?
 
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Abid357 said:
Nope, still not getting the question completely. Why are we finding the difference between the two numbers here?
In (v), we found the sum of all the numbers up to 150. Agreed? In part (iv), we found the sum of multiples of 3 up to 150. Right, na? So when they ask us to find the sum of the numbers less than 150 which are not multiples of 3, we simply subtract (iv) from (v). Come on, this makes sense Abid, no?
I hope it does. Do lemme know please. :)
 
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There is an easy way to find the formula for the second difference. Perhaps what I am going to tell you isn't mention anywhere in the textbooks so note it down and keep it safe for future generations!

As for finding the formula for the sequence like this :- 2,4,7,11 etc....

It is this :- 0.5(n^2)-0.5n+1

(2nd difference of the sequence/2)x(n^2)-nth formula

First you will take (1/2)x(n^2) and then find the nth formula . For finding the nth formula first do this rough working.

The first term number is 1 and how is that? Since 2,4 has a first difference of 2 and 4,7 has a difference of 3 . The second difference of 2 and 3 is 1. That is why I took (1/2) in the formula for the second difference. If you subtract 1 from 2 , you will get the difference of 1st term and 2nd term which will give you the first term of this sequence which is 1. It is important that the first difference should be one before you start the working because these are second difference sequences. In the first difference type of sequences, they can start with any number. But in these you have to be careful! So whenever you are doing any questions of second difference , always see that any term you have has a first difference of 1!

Having explained that, I will now tell you how to find the nth formula. We know that Nth formula is An= a+(n-1)d

'a' is the first difference of the term. 'd' is the difference of the 2nd and the 1st term.

The working for this is nth term number - (2nd a/2)(nth term)^2 = whatever the answer is.

e.g 1) 1-(0.5)(1)^2 = 0.5
2) 2-(0.5)(2)^2= 0
3) 4-(0.5)(3)^2 = -1/2

d= 2nd term - 1st term or 3rd term - 2nd term

d= (0 - 0.5) = -0.5 , a= 1/2

An = a+(n-1)(d)
An= 0.5+(n-1)(-0.5)
An= 1/2+1/2 - 0.5n
An= -1/2(n)+1

Now you have found the nth formula. Add this into the one that I found earlier.

It will be 0.5(n^2)-0.5n+1

The sequence is 1,2,4,7,11,16


Happy day everyone! :)
 
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abcde said:
In (v), we found the sum of all the numbers up to 150. Agreed? In part (iv), we found the sum of multiples of 3 up to 150. Right, na? So when they ask us to find the sum of the numbers less than 150 which are not multiples of 3, we simply subtract (iv) from (v). Come on, this makes sense Abid, no?
I hope it does. Do lemme know please. :)
Ooooo I get it now ! After breaking my head for 15 minutes, phew... thanks so much pal, sorry to bother you :)

They asked us to find the sum of those numbers in the two parts which are not multiples of 3. Since part (iv) answer is the sum of all the multiples of 3 upto 150, we just subtract that from part (v) answer, taking or cancelling out all the multiples of 3... cool, I finally did it : P
 
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Yes, you did it! :D You didn't bother me. I was and will be glad to help. :)
 
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abcde said:
Yes, you did it! :D You didn't bother me. I was and will be glad to help. :)
Thanks so much :D
 
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nightrider95 said:
There is an easy way to find the formula for the second difference. Perhaps what I am going to tell you isn't mention anywhere in the textbooks so note it down and keep it safe for future generations!

As for finding the formula for the sequence like this :- 2,4,7,11 etc....

It is this :- 0.5(n^2)-0.5n+1

(2nd difference of the sequence/2)x(n^2)-nth formula

First you will take (1/2)x(n^2) and then find the nth formula . For finding the nth formula first do this rough working.

The first term number is 1 and how is that? Since 2,4 has a first difference of 2 and 4,7 has a difference of 3 . The second difference of 2 and 3 is 1. That is why I took (1/2) in the formula for the second difference. If you subtract 1 from 2 , you will get the difference of 1st term and 2nd term which will give you the first term of this sequence which is 1. It is important that the first difference should be one before you start the working because these are second difference sequences. In the first difference type of sequences, they can start with any number. But in these you have to be careful! So whenever you are doing any questions of second difference , always see that any term you have has a first difference of 1!

Having explained that, I will now tell you how to find the nth formula. We know that Nth formula is An= a+(n-1)d

'a' is the first difference of the term. 'd' is the difference of the 2nd and the 1st term.

The working for this is nth term number - (2nd a/2)(nth term)^2 = whatever the answer is.

e.g 1) 1-(0.5)(1)^2 = 0.5
2) 2-(0.5)(2)^2= 0
3) 4-(0.5)(3)^2 = -1/2

d= 2nd term - 1st term or 3rd term - 2nd term

d= (0 - 0.5) = -0.5 , a= 1/2

An = a+(n-1)(d)
An= 0.5+(n-1)(-0.5)
An= 1/2+1/2 - 0.5n
An= -1/2(n)+1

Now you have found the nth formula. Add this into the one that I found earlier.

It will be 0.5(n^2)-0.5n+1

The sequence is 1,2,4,7,11,16


Happy day everyone! :)
Many thanks for the information, nightrider95. It's true that this formula isn't usually found in our text books. I would like to explain the same thing in a different way :)

Linear sequences

Eg: 2, 4, 6, 8, 10...

The difference in this case is 2 between every number.

-2--4--6--8--10-
--\_/\_/\_/\_/--
...(2)(2)(2)(2)... --> (differences)

Formula: a + d(n - 1)

where,
a = 1st term
d = difference

Therefore: a = 2 and d = 2 in this case,
a + d(n - 1)
= 2 + 2(n - 1)
= 2 + 2n - 2
= 2n

Check: if n = 3, then...
2(3)
= 6

Quadratic sequences

Eg: 1, 4, 8, 13, 19...

The difference in this case varies between every number.

1--4---8--13--19
_\_/ \_/ \_/ \_/_
..(3).(4).(5).(6).. --> (1st difference)
___\_/\_/\_/___
.....(1)(1)(1)..... --> (2nd difference)

Formula: a + d(n - 1) + ½(n - 1)(n - 2)C

where,
a = 1st term
d = 1st difference between the first two numbers
C = 2nd difference

Therefore: a = 1, d = 3 and C = 1 in this case,
a + d(n - 1) + ½(n - 1)(n - 2)C
= 1 + 3(n - 1) + ½(n - 1)(n - 2) x 1------> (replace letters by their values)
= 1 + 3n - 3 + ½(n^2 - 3n + 2) ----------> (simplify)
= (3n - 2) + ½n^2 - ½ x 3n + ½ x 2 ----> (simplify)
= ½n^2 + (3n - ½ x 3n) + (-2 + 1) ------> (collect like terms together)
= ½n^2 + ½ x 3n - 1 --------------------> (factorize)
= ½n(n + 3) - 1

Check: if n = 3, then...
½ x 3(3 + 3) - 1
= ½ x 3(6) - 1
= ½ x 18 - 1
= 9 - 1
= 8
 
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Any Hint for 2011 MAy\JUne
What all topics to be revised???????????
 
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maths is ezy till u keep practising
 
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student92 said:
http://www.xtremepapers.me/CIE/Cambridge%20IGCSE/0580%20-%20Mathematics/0580_s09_qp_4.pdf
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thanks
69 is the asnwer in the marking sheme cao
Let's call the Norths over A, B and P N1, N2 and N3, respectively.
N1AP = (280 - 180) + 23 = 123
N1AB = 360 - 123 - 126 = 111
111 + N2BA = 180 (interior angles)
=> N2BA = 69.
and thus the bearing of A from B is 069*. :)
 
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Or even simpler: we know BPS3 is 280 - 180 = 100.
By alternate angles, N2BP = 100.
ABP = 180 - 23 - 126 = 31* (angle sum of triangle)
So N2BA = 100 - 31 = 69.
Thus the bearing is 069*.
Hope you understand. :)
 
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