Why bother

[kinglynx]

The word "brah" seems to irritate you quite a bit...

Anyway, you're taking things way too far with the doctor thing. You're implying that a person who knows what may come in a practical beforehand is somehow predisposed to "cheating" and will do so throughout his life. If you want to get philosophical about it, one may argue that a person who "doesn't" know what's coming beforehand is in fact being cheated, as others have an unfair advantage over him if they know. There's more than one way to look at it, but you step out of your bubble of close mindedness, perhaps you'd see it that way. I am in no way endorsing cheating. In fact, I had no idea that people even knew what was coming beforehand, I just heard a friend say something and repeated what he said in a couple thread. The reason I'm here is because I don't know the ABC's of chemistry (slight exaggeration, I know a bit...) and I needed help with that.

But what you're doing is dumping a whole lot of people in one big bin and saying they're ALL going to be unsuccessful in their lives. That is something I cannot agree with. Like I said, I'm not encouraging people to go on ahead and not study anything. In my case, I don't fully trust the "predictions" and study other stuff anyway. If someone doesn't do that, they're an isolated case, and you can't thrust me into the same category as them. To do so is pure ignorance.

well i never actually generalised, thats all i have to say to that. i never said theyre ALL going to be unsuccessful. Before you get someone to look at your persepctive try looking at that persons first. I dont have enough time to come and write a big reply to you everytime because this could go on forever. But i like how you ignored my reply to the grammar part.

come on, then get off this website.
It's your choice to stay or leave
It's our choice to ask and tell.

DUH

Yeah and your choice will affect others in the future, DUH.

 

[Casablanca]

well i never actually generalised, thats all i have to say to that. i never said theyre ALL going to be unsuccessful. Before you get someone to look at your persepctive try looking at that persons first. I dont have enough time to come and write a big reply to you everytime because this could go on forever. But i like how you ignored my reply to the grammar part.

I like how you suddenly switched to relatively better grammar when I mentioned it.

Anyway, yeah, you DID generalize. You specifically stated so. Don't try denying it, because you can scroll up and see for yourself...

Do you seriously believe that your thread is going to stop anyone from doing what they want? Because let me tell you right now, it's not. Once again, I'm neither condemning, nor condoning any actions, I'm just presenting other possibilities. You seem to believe that I don't see your initial point, whereas I do. And my responses were building upon that assumption, but quite obviously, you did not grasp that.

Haters gonna hate, potatoes gonna potate. Happy hunting, brah.

 

[umarashraf]

i just made this account 5 minutes ago, but you guys are actually disgusting, theres no point in asking around whats going to come on the test. the whole point of a TEST is that you dont know whats coming up and you see how good or bad you are on what your expected to know.
Go learn what you need rather than learning whats on the test.

wao.. amazing mate.... ITS BETTER TO WEAR SLIPPERS THAN TRYING CARPET THE WHOLE NATION..... i wont say you have made a silly or good comment, but truly there is nothing to appreciate here for you mate...

 

[anonymous123]

now that the battle is finally over...i was wondering...if someone cud tell me.......whts coming in phy 34?

 

[Prisonbreak94]

i just made this account 5 minutes ago, but you guys are actually disgusting, theres no point in asking around whats going to come on the test. the whole point of a TEST is that you dont know whats coming up and you see how good or bad you are on what your expected to know.
Go learn what you need rather than learning whats on the test.

Nerd.

 

[kellyisevil]

HAHAHAH knowing what material is used for an experiment will affect others. RIGHT. LOL

 

[Mustehssun Iqbal]

come on, then get off this website.
It's your choice to stay or leave
It's our choice to ask and tell.

DUH

I didn't read the whole conversation, but this point is wrong. It's not like, if we have a choice, we have the authority. In the same logic, a murderer also has a choice. And he murders. A robber has a choice . And he robs. That's what the guy is trying to prove: just because someone can, doesn't necessarily mean he should. no offense. Just trying to make a correction

 

[n00bfi]

Whoa, I'm doing IGCSE's and came here to see what 'A' level is like, and did not expect this at all. Seriously? It's like a video-game troll forum. I used to wonder how those dumb/lazy/whatever people could cope with 'A' level (my brother's done it and told me about how it) after doing so badly in the IGCSE's, but looks like I found out what happened to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not generalising here, but many seem to be trying to defend what they're doing using null arguments.

For example, using the 'surgeon knows what's coming up in a surgery'. That argument is null because the point of practicals is to test your knowledge of certain things. To compare an operation with a practical exam is nonsense as they test completely different things. A practical exam is a test and an operation is a procedure. Therefore, the two can't be compared.

Continuing on,

HAHAHAH knowing what material is used for an experiment will affect others. RIGHT. LOL

Yes, of course it will. If you know what material is used for an experiment you obviously do not have the knowledge necessary to perform well in the exam which in turn shows how well you will perform in, for example, an operation. As I said, since you obviously lack knowledge, you will screw up said operation which definitely affects other people. Seriously, hollow and sad.

One last thing,

Do you seriously believe that your thread is going to stop anyone from doing what they want?

This, this and this. I agree whole-heartedly with this.

To the original poster, this is all you need to. I understand you feel bad about what's going on but, and once more I'm not generalising, stupid people will always be stupid. That's all there is to it. My dad who gave a very difficult exam to become a diplomat told me (not literally) 'Shit happens, but genuine knowledge can't be replaced.' I've held onto this my whole life and guess what, it worked.

Sincerely, a shocked IGCSE student.

 

[Casablanca]

*snip*

Why does everyone assume that knowing what is going to come in the test automatically means you didn't study for anything else?

 

[Mustehssun Iqbal]

Whoa, I'm doing IGCSE's and came here to see what 'A' level is like, and did not expect this at all. Seriously? It's like a video-game troll forum. I used to wonder how those dumb/lazy/whatever people could cope with 'A' level (my brother's done it and told me about how it) after doing so badly in the IGCSE's, but looks like I found out what happened to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not generalising here, but many seem to be trying to defend what they're doing using null arguments.

For example, using the 'surgeon knows what's coming up in a surgery'. That argument is null because the point of practicals is to test your knowledge of certain things. To compare an operation with a practical exam is nonsense as they test completely different things. A practical exam is a test and an operation is a procedure. Therefore, the two can't be compared.

Continuing on,




Yes, of course it will. If you know what material is used for an experiment you obviously do not have the knowledge necessary to perform well in the exam which in turn shows how well you will perform in, for example, an operation. As I said, since you obviously lack knowledge, you will screw up said operation which definitely affects other people. Seriously, hollow and sad.

One last thing,





This, this and this. I agree whole-heartedly with this.

To the original poster, this is all you need to. I understand you feel bad about what's going on but, and once more I'm not generalising, stupid people will always be stupid. That's all there is to it. My dad who gave a very difficult exam to become a diplomat told me (not literally) 'Shit happens, but genuine knowledge can't be replaced.' I've held onto this my whole life and guess what, it worked.

Sincerely, a shocked IGCSE student.

right. What's the point of doing A level then, just reputation?? We can also do other boards, get a lot of cheating, and even get books in the examination halls like it happens in the other places. Result, fake degrees, people coming not on merit, result, downfall of a country, worst result, earning badly, God forbid.
We want to earn lawfully?? It starts here. Getting a job also involves the grades of intermediatte or A level or equivalent boards. This actually becomes a part of our earning. So be careful .

 

[DANGERBP]

Nerd.

ahahahaha =p

 

[kellyisevil]

if we didnt study how can we know what materials is for what experiments ?

We are just focusing more on it
we all know there are risk trusting internet source.

 

[n00bfi]

right. What's the point of doing A level then, just reputation?? We can also do other boards, get a lot of cheating, and even get books in the examination halls like it happens in the other places. Result, fake degrees, people coming not on merit, result, downfall of a country, worst result, earning badly, God forbid.
We want to earn lawfully?? It starts here. Getting a job also involves the grades of intermediatte or A level or equivalent boards. This actually becomes a part of our earning. So be careful .

I'm not sure whether you're trying to criticise me or whether you're supporting me.

If you mean to say that we need to get genuine grades so as to contribute to society, then yes I agree. It's basically what I said; people can cheat up to a certain point but then when it comes to genuine knowledge being tested, they will fail. And once more, they try to cheat, but cheating when you have a job isn't that easy. Most people that try to do so (especially in worthwhile jobs, not crappy ones) usually end up broken or dead.

 

[Mustehssun Iqbal]

Right is right even if noone does it. wrong is wrong even if everyone does it. Fair is fair. Being honest with the mistakes is one of the first steps of the ladder leading to improvement.

 

[n00bfi]

Why does everyone assume that knowing what is going to come in the test automatically means you didn't study for anything else?

Did I say that? And it's funny how you completely deleted what I said. No, I said that if one needs to know in advance what will come up in the, they lack the necessary knowledge. Why else would you go around asking what's coming up? Honestly.

We are just focusing more on it

If you have adequate knowledge (assuming you've studied for a certain subject), why should you even need to focus more on it? Is it because you can't? Honestly, tell me why.

 

[Casablanca]

Did I say that? And it's funny how you completely deleted what I said. No, I said that if one needs to know in advance what will come up in the, they lack the necessary knowledge. Why else would you go around asking what's coming up? Honestly.

It's called a "snip". It is commonly used in forums when a post is too long and you don't want to take up too much space repeating the same words. It's not meant to be offensive, so calm down.

And yeah, you DID say that.

"If you know what material is used for an experiment you obviously do not have the knowledge necessary to perform well in the exam which in turn shows how well you will perform in, for example, an operation. As I said, since you obviously lack knowledge, you will screw up said operation which definitely affects other people. Seriously, hollow and sad."

Your words. ^

 

[n00bfi]

It's called a "snip". It is commonly used in forums when a post is too long and you don't want to take up too much space repeating the same words. It's not meant to be offensive, so calm down.

And yeah, you DID say that.

"If you know what material is used for an experiment you obviously do not have the knowledge necessary to perform well in the exam which in turn shows how well you will perform in, for example, an operation. As I said, since you obviously lack knowledge, you will screw up said operation which definitely affects other people. Seriously, hollow and sad."

Your words. ^

Ah, I see, none taken then.

My point was, why should one need to know what's coming up in the test if they've studied adequately? Is it to do the best possible? If so, then true you'll do the best possible, but it's very difficult to replicate that in a job situation. I'm not trying to say people haven't studied, I'm simply asking why they wish to know what's coming up in the exam considering many are basically saying:

"HURR DURR I have studied, y u so mad br0?"

 

[Mustehssun Iqbal]

I'm not sure whether you're trying to criticise me or whether you're supporting me.

If you mean to say that we need to get genuine grades so as to contribute to society, then yes I agree. It's basically what I said; people can cheat up to a certain point but then when it comes to genuine knowledge being tested, they will fail. And once more, they try to cheat, but cheating when you have a job isn't that easy. Most people that try to do so (especially in worthwhile jobs, not crappy ones) usually end up broken or dead.

I was supporting what you said. What I tried to add was, our education at this stage becomes a part of our earning. Getting jobs are also determined by the grades we got. Suppose a student got straight A*s and another student scores straight Cs . The student with straight A*s applies for a very high , sci- fi type of job. The other student does the same but the student who scored A* gets the job and the other student doesn't. In that way, our grades are kind of linked to our job, and eventually, to the way we earn money. Hope you got the point

 

[iKhaled]

i just made this account 5 minutes ago, but you guys are actually disgusting, theres no point in asking around whats going to come on the test. the whole point of a TEST is that you dont know whats coming up and you see how good or bad you are on what your expected to know.
Go learn what you need rather than learning whats on the test.

y mad bro? was math today tooo hard for ya or what ?

 

[Casablanca]

Ah, I see, none taken then.

My point was, why should one need to know what's coming up in the test if they've studied adequately? Is it to do the best possible? If so, then true you'll do the best possible, but it's very difficult to replicate that in a job situation.

Well, if you don't know, and did it correctly, that's well and good, but if you happened to find out what was coming through no fault of your own (meaning you chanced upon it without actively seeking it out) then:

1. You can't be called a cheater, since you're not to blame.
2. It's not even cheating, because practicals are performance based, and there's nothing on paper that could ever help you prepare for it. It's all about practice. In the bio practical, there are 4 possible questions that may come (with variants of course, but they're essentially the same question).

1. Tests for plasmolysis.
2. H2O2 test.
3. Food tests.
4. Microscopic slide recognition.

Everyone has practiced this throughout the year. You have a 50% chance of knowing exactly what's going to come anyway. Also, what we learn on the internet are simply guesses, nothing confirmed. Also, in practicals, there is no correct answer. Your answer may be completely different from the person next to you, and they'd STILL both be right. (given that they are within a certain range)

As for surgeries and practicals, they're more comparable than you think. Sure, practicals are nowhere near as serious, or difficult, and yeah, your surgeries don't get marked, but they're both procedures that require prior practice and knowledge.

I don't know how many times I have to say this for people to understand, but I am NOT encouraging cheating, I am simply qualifying the guesses people have given out here.