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the available body of facts: that this universe did not come into existence by mere coincidence 2. Everything was created out of nothing but not on its own rather God made it happen, there matter time and space came into existence 3. there is no other sensible option 4. you yourself is a proof of God
religious people as well as the scientific through evidence came to believe in God, there should'nt even be a question there is a God or no God...its just so obvious.
what you state here is an ontological argument
there is no proof for the "god made it happen" part, only an ontological argument
and when you state "there is no other sensible option" this is the very mind set that is based upon validation: self and social, there does not need to be an end solution, i am perfectly comfortable with not knowing and learning at the same time
why does it make people so uncomfortable, is beyond me, so much so that they MUST have a solution here and now in their life time, is it that not having a god/gods would make their life meaningless? if so, then make your own purpose for your own life decide for yourself, use your mental faculties for doing good without anyone else telling you what is good or bad, it is not really that difficult
and logic does not settle problems in science, evidence does
religious people as well as the scientific through evidence came to believe in God, there should'nt even be a question there is a God or no God...its just so obvious.
i used to think like this as well
actually belief in god/gods started with the stars .. read the material in message #181, read/watch all the material then come to your OWN decision
who cares what i think or what anyone else thinks or what some so called "holy book" says, think for yourself and don't follow dogma
So did u know in the beginning
God extracted all of Adam’s descendants who were yet to be born, generation after generation, spread them out, and took a covenant from them. He addressed their souls directly, making them bear witness that He was their Lord. Since God made all human beings swear to His Lordship when He created Adam, this oath is imprinted on the human soul even before it enters the fetus, and so a child is born with a natural belief in the Oneness of God. This natural belief is called fitra in Arabic.
Consequently, every person carries the seed of belief in the Oneness of God that lies deeply buried under layers of negligence and dampened by social conditioning. If the child were left alone, it would grow up conscious of God — a single Creator — but all children are affected by their environment. The Prophet of God said, “Each child is born in a state of ‘fitra,’ but his parents make him a Jew or a Christian. It is like the way an animal gives birth to a normal offspring. Have you noticed any young born mutilated before you mutilate them?” (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)
hahahaha... this is not evidence .. these are claims
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