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HOPE IT HELPED :D
 

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in the first part u wrote
1600>400a
why did u use the weight of only one of the boxes?
 
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Because we are only talking abt lower box.....as the force is aplied only to it...the wieght of upper box would only be needed in calculating R in friction :D
 
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will this be the case for any two objects ontop of each other ie. taking the mass of the lower box
and may i ask if the force was applied to the top box what would be the maximum acceleration.
 
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use the concept of free body diagram....take lower mass in isolation...label forces acting on it.....friction b/w two boxes to ryt.....friction of whole object with ground........wachout i used the word whole object.....force p to left.....and normal force upwards....
do the same for upper block....forces....friction to left...well this goes against my perception of what shud happen but think this way since objects are moving forward....there must be a force on b which cause it to move forwards which is friction.....normal upwards and weight......
 
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i have two questions
1)u said: there must be a force on b which cause it to move forwards
who said B is moving forwards all u know is the sliding motion
2)that doesnt explain why u would use the weight of only the bottom block when calculating the acceleration

any notes will be appreciated!
 
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it is mentioned that they are accelerating in the forward direction....and no sliding takes place b/w upper and lower box.....
wat i told u is that take upper masss in isolation.....begin by labelling forces acting....there is a normal reaction equal to its weght and friction......if both boxes are moving forward this means that bothe upper and lower are moving forwards....upper one moves forward under effect of friction b/w the two blocks which acts in forward direction for upper one backward direction for lower one....i hope that helps...still in doubt..... post ur query.....
 
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so say the upper mass was 200kg instead of 400 and the friction is the same(1600) how would u find the acceleration?
 
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200 kg means normal will be 2000 N....SO FRICTION WILL CHANGE...IT WILL BE 2000 MULTIPY .4.....
 
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im guessing its W
or maybe zero, but i dont think so
im not that good with mechanics
 
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