ATTENTION PLEASE -- All Muslim Brothers and Sisters

[Master_Shifu]

hmm.. depends upon how you see it.. I do watch utube if I need to, coz for me the pros of it far outweigh the cons... like Sh. Yasir Qadhi just uploaded an amazing lecture on his reaction upon all of this and on muslim stance towards it... it was enlightening.. if I was staying away from utube.. I wdn't have seen it.. I believe internet is a tool and it depends upon how u use it.. If abstaining from it serves a purpose then sure... but the way I see it.. it does not.
(besides one page view frm u, isn't gonna much of make a differnce)

If u r waiting then plz do see it whn it comes back.. coz those vids r good.

Ohh no...you are right...i know that but still if my govt banned something im not gonna go against it.
yes i will surely

 

[Master_Shifu]

read whole of page 15 (and 14 if u have time).. that's whr the good stuff is, I think.
May Allah reward u, Aameen.

Ohh...ok jazakallah ^__^

 

[Master_Shifu]

Ohh...ok jazakallah ^__^

badrobot14 did i get gunnaaah for making these smileys??

 

[badrobot14]

badrobot14 did i get gunnaaah for making these smileys??

As far as using smileys is concerned.. To my knowledge it is permissible to use them.. if u mean u r being funny, is it ok.. then it depends, this is a public place and evry1's behind a screen so for myself I allow myself to joke here but I don't normally joke in conversations wid opp gender (see that convo and notice my robotic replies)... I try to keep it on topic... coz I know for sure being too casual in convos might lead me to following footsteps of shytaan...

Allah knows best...

 

[Master_Shifu]

As far as using smileys is concerned.. To my knowledge it is permissible to use them.. if u mean u r being funny, is it ok.. then it depends, this is a public place and evry1's behind a screen so for myself I allow myself to joke here but I don't normally joke in conversations wid opp gender (see that convo and notice my robotic replies)... I try to keep it on topic... coz I know for sure being too casual in convos might lead me to following footsteps of shytaan...

Allah knows best...

yes i noticed -_-

YES OFC but still :/// when i made these smileys ryt now was this a wrong thing for me to do??

 

[badrobot14]

yes i noticed -_-

YES OFC but still :/// when i made these smileys ryt now was this a wrong thing for me to do??

I'm not a mufti... Allah knows best.. whn m at a loss I remind myself of this hadith: Wabisah bin Ma'bad, radiyallahu 'anhu, said:
I came to the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, and he said: "You have come to ask about righteousness ?" " Yes," I answered. He said: "Consult your heart. Righteousness is that about which the soul feels tranquil and the heart feels tranquil, and sin is what creates restlessness in the soul and moves to and fro in the breast, even though people give you their opinion (in your favour) and continue to do so."
[A good hadith transmitted from the Musnads of the two Imams, Ahmad bin Hanbal and Al-Darimi]

and I forgot;

Ohh...ok jazakallah ^__^

wa iyyakum sis...

 

[Master_Shifu]

I'm not a mufti... Allah knows best.. whn m at a loss I remind myself of this hadith: Wabisah bin Ma'bad, radiyallahu 'anhu, said:
I came to the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam, and he said: "You have come to ask about righteousness ?" " Yes," I answered. He said: "Consult your heart. Righteousness is that about which the soul feels tranquil and the heart feels tranquil, and sin is what creates restlessness in the soul and moves to and fro in the breast, even though people give you their opinion (in your favour) and continue to do so."
[A good hadith transmitted from the Musnads of the two Imams, Ahmad bin Hanbal and Al-Darimi]

and I forgot;




wa iyyakum sis...

ohh i know what that means ^_^ yayy

 

[Saiyan]

badrobot14
Sir, I have left all my conversations with my female friends as I wanted to do the right thing..... I have kept my conversations with my male friends. May Allah protect them all from depression and guide them to the right path. As you must know, I do have a strong heart and mind otherwise I would have fallen into the trap of Shaiytan a long time ago. I no longer regret what I have done as I feel I did the right thing by engaging in conversations with them and helping them to be proper Muslims and be strong during hard times. To strengthen the argument in this thread I want to share this:

Praise be to Allaah.
It is known in the religion of Allaah that it is forbidden to follow in the footsteps of the Shaytaan. Everything that could lead a person to fall into haraam things is also haraam, even if in principle it is originally permitted. This is what the scholars call “the principle of warding off harm.”
Concerning this matter, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Follow not the footsteps of Shaytaan.” [al-Noor 24:21].
With regard to the second matter, He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allaah, lest they insult Allaah wrongfully without knowledge…” [al-An’aam 6:108]
Here Allaah forbids the believers to insult the mushrikeen lest that leads to them insulting the Lord, may He be glorified and exalted.
There are many examples of this principle in sharee’ah. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) mentioned many of them and explained them well in his excellent book A’laam al-Muwaqqi’een. (See 3/147-171 thereof).
The issue under discussion here also comes under this category. Conversation – whether verbally or in writing – between men and women is permissible in and of itself, but it may be a way of falling into the traps of the Shaytaan.
Whoever knows that he is somewhat weak, and is afraid that he may fall into the traps of the Shaytaan, has to refrain from such conversations, in order to save himself.
Whoever is sure that he will be able to remain steadfast, then we think that it is permissible in his case, but there are certain conditions:
The conversation should not be allowed to wander too far from the topic being discussed; or it should be for the purposes of calling others to Islam.
They should not let their voices be soft, or use soft and gentle expressions.
They should not ask about personal matters that have no bearing on the matter being discussed, such as how old a person is, how tall he or she is, or where he or she lives… etc.
Other brothers (in the case of men) or sisters (in the case of women) should take part in the conversation or read the correspondence, so that the Shaytaan will find no way to enter the hearts of the people who are conversing or corresponding. The conversation or correspondence must be halted immediately if the heart starts to stir with feelings of desire.

My Muslim brothers don't be disappointed...... I always lower my gaze when talking to a female in my real life. I always avoid eye contact. It looks silly and you all may get teased but believe me it is ALL for the good and this is to show a proper respect to a female..... This is helpful mostly in the aspect to avoid evil thoughts and believe me you will never have any ill thoughts regarding females once you practise this.... I possess no ill thoughts about any female. It also permits us to be strong at heart! My blessings and prayers to you all! May Allah bless us everyone and protect us from all evil! Ameen!

 

[ZaMiN RaZa]

Before I go on further, I'd wanna ask did this happen with you? It'd be easier for me to clarify then..

actually happened with me on these forums. i asked a girl about a few confusing topics or not in my course book and she happily gave me answers to them, more than enough and really helped me for my exam in the coming days. so i see nothing wrong with this.

 

[ZaMiN RaZa]

Assalamoalaikum wr wb!
Well, many of you may know that our beautiful religion does not promote this relationship between the members of the opposite gender. Probably, most of you may not do this in real life, but sadly fail to realize that even here online, it’s wrong to do so. Through conversations, etc. calling each other..thinking it’s just like a brother-sister relationship....Enjoying around..
It’s not OKAY, to all those who failed to realize this. Now that you know, please seek forgiveness from Allah...and leave each other solely to seek Allah’s pleasure. If you’re a true Muslim, and you really don’t want to displease Allah, nothing should stop you from doing so! I request both sisters and brothers, not to be angry or anything, and just quietly say good bye to each other solely for Allah Allah will surely reward you and give you the best..
Be friends...guys with guys ...and girls with girls Is it something so difficult?

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May Allah bless you all...
Be proud to be a Muslim...Your Lord loves you and definitely choses the Best for you. He’s the One who created you, and who other than He can know what’s Best for you.

u know, it is talking like this that leds to extremism and later we might find you leading a group giving islam a bad name and u know the rest.

 

[XPFMember]

actually happened with me on these forums. i asked a girl about a few confusing topics or not in my course book and she happily gave me answers to them, more than enough and really helped me for my exam in the coming days. so i see nothing wrong with this.

u know, it is talking like this that leds to extremism and later we might find you leading a group giving islam a bad name and u know the rest.

AsSalamoAlaikum Wr Wb...

Alright. I have no right to force you to believe what I say, cuz you think I'm going to extremes. But tell me one little thing. If there's a ruling laid down by Allah, do you consider yourself having the right to modify it on the basis of what you see/ think? If yes, then surely move on the way you want to. If not, then think again, seek for forgiveness to Allah (s.w.t) and never say so again...

May Allah guide us all..

I'd surely be looking forward to a response from you.

 

[Saiyan]

ZaMiN RaZa Brother please read my post..... You must need to understand something...... This IS for OUR own GOOD!
And after helping someone or asking someone for help leave the conversation without speaking about personal stuffs. We can have conversations under some given criteria, it is written in my previous post!

 

[PrincessLuna]

How should this principle apply to me then? Since I am not a muslim, should males who believe in Islam not communicate with me?

I take it if a girl asks for support about lets say a maths problem a male can respond to that question but not mention anything emotional or related to socialising?

Myself, I don't believe such a thing is right. However it does seem like having such practices would not make one a true muslim. Therefore if one's principles and priorities are to be muslim it is inevitable that this has to be followed.

So unlike the OP, I would not say "it is wrong" but rather "it is against the principles of Islam and if one considers themselves a true follower of Islam they must not do so".

 

[badrobot14]

How should this principle apply to me then? Since I am not a muslim, should males who believe in Islam not communicate with me?

I take it if a girl asks for support about lets say a maths problem a male can respond to that question but not mention anything emotional or related to socialising?

Myself, I don't believe such a thing is right. However it does seem like having such practices would not make one a true muslim. Therefore if one's principles and priorities are to be muslim it is inevitable that this has to be followed.

we do communicate if needed but we just keep our distance when physically interacting with the opposite gender if they are not close-family.... we try to stay formal and not get too friendly/casual.

This might explain:

 

[XPFMember]

AsSalamoAlaikum Wr Wb

It is not allowed for a man to have correspondence with any woman whom he is not related to. This s because this is a source of temptation. The one involved may think that there is no temptation involved but the Devil may continue to work on him until he becomes enticed by her and her by him. The Prophet (peace be upon him) ordered that the one who heard about the anti-Christ's arrival should remain far away from him. He said that a man will come to him as a believer but the anti-Christ will keep working on him until he tempts him. Similarly, correspondence between young men and women is a great temptation and something very much to be avoided. One must refrain from it even if he claims that there is no lewdness or passion involved. As for correspondence between men and men or between women and women, there is no harm in that as long as such correspondence does not contain anything forbidden.

Shaikh ibn Jibreen

^Came across this, and found worth sharing!

 

[knowitall10]

I did explain why islamically that post is baseless, and you chose to ignore my response... Anyways I'm sorry if I did hurt you... maybe I let some emotions out... The thing is even if I do something wrong, I can't say according to religion I'm ok or this is not so important, it's not for me to decide what's important; It's for Allah to say what is important.



Do find a learned scholar and become a student of the Quran, inshaAllah you'll see what Allah (S.W.T) really prioritises... is it 'true philosophical essence of Islam' or is it Taqwa (being aware and cautious of God, fearing His justice so much so that you abstain from what He has prohibited)? Taqwa is mentioned about 151 times in Quran, and just to make you see; this is how the second chaapter of Quran starts:
1.Alif, Lam, Meem.
2. This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear (or are conscious) of Allah (Taqwa).
3. Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them;
4. And who believe in the Revelation sent to you, and sent before your time, and (in their hearts) have the assurance of the Hereafter.
5. They are on (true) guidance, from their Lord, and it is these who will prosper.



yeah, you can call it fighting... sorry you had to see this... the reason I had to reply was there was stuff said about Islam which wasn't true...
See this; you might know why I value Quran so much:

Asalamu 'Alykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu!

This was an amazing reply mashAllah

 

[knowitall10]

Thankyou for mentionig this... I was learning surah ankaboot today... I'll share some lessons (pertaining to dis) with you inshaAllah (tomorrow probably), they'll benefit both of us, beiznillah.

in the mean time make dis dua, it helps me too, Prophet of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) made it,

يَا مُقَلِّبَ الْقُلُوْب ثَبِّتْ قَلْبِىْ عَلٰى دِيْنِكَ

(ya muqqalibal quloob thabbit qalbi ala deenik)
"O the Turner of hearts! Make my heart firm on Your Deen."
(Tirmizi)

Oh my god.. Allah yajzeek! I really needed this Duaa!!
Please, do share what you learnt in Surah Al-Ankaboot

 

[knowitall10]

Aannd finally, I'm done reading the whole thread alhamdulillah...

XPFMember and badrobot14 and SalmanPakRocks
Thank you very much for the most sensible replies to the weirdest of questions! Jazakumullahu Khair!
Thanks to badrobot14, he was viewing this thread so I randomly clicked on it.. Was very confused and I really needed help so I guess Allah sent me here.. Alhamdulillah. I read the first post ( was beautiful) and I have no idea what made me read the whole thread! Alhamdulillah alhamdulillah alhamdulillah I was able to read the replies here.. It not only increased my knowledge and my understanding of the opposite gender problems but also set me straight and I thank Allah for making me a member of such an Islamic and enthusiastic community!

May Allah reward the three of you, and the rest of the Muslim thread makers for spreading Deen in such an efficient manner. Beautiful.. I have no words to express the way you all managed to reply to the most difficult questions! Excellent job and may Allah accept this fm all of us. May Allah guide us all to the right path, may we accept the truth and follow the Quran and Sunnah! May Allah give us the toufeq to seek more knowledge for Islam is an endless religion.. And may we become one ummah, united, and spread Islam as a single force..

Aaameen..


Again, ALLAH YAJZEEKUM!!! You have helped me out of the most difficult phase of my life by Allah's Mercy! May He reward you immensely,, ya Rabb!

 

[knowitall10]

Al-Anoud Raweeha gary221 Ibtizam cyclone94 sumaiyarox:) Happy Muslimah Nayya Hassan shazmina Bilal Khan 1357911
And @everyone on this forum.. And perhaps out of this forum. Please do give this thread a read. I highly recommend you read all the posts, it's worth it, I'm serious.. And please tag other members here too.. Remember, read the first 17 pages of this thread. They will set us all straight bi idhnillah
May Allah guide us!

 

[Al-Anoud]

Al-Anoud Raweeha gary221 Ibtizam cyclone94 sumaiyarox:) Happy Muslimah Nayya Hassan shazmina Bilal Khan 1357911
And @everyone on this forum.. And perhaps out of this forum. Please do give this thread a read. I highly recommend you read all the posts, it's worth it, I'm serious.. And please tag other members here too.. Remember, read the first 17 pages of this thread. They will set us all straight bi idhnillah
May Allah guide us!

18 pages??