BAN MUSIC CAMPAIGN - For Muslim brothers and sisters

[..sacrifice4Revenge..]

finally someone who agrees with me

really? he is open to opinions and changing his if he is convinced while u aren't..

 

[mercedes008]

I don't understand, if something is a sin, isn't it obviously Haraam, forbidden?
then why is there a difference between both of em

 

[Ahmedfj]

finally someone who agrees with me

his question was answered by badrobot .. check it out too

 

[Ahmedfj]

thats what is our main problem and leads to dis-unity... Scholars can't unite on an issue and ppl can't unite regarding principles

following a scholar doesnt mean u r right .. following the Quran and sunnah makes u right and yeh i agree wid u ....... 98 % of world's scholars always prefer thier school of thought over the Quran and hadith

 

[..sacrifice4Revenge..]

following a scholar doesnt mean u r right .. following the Quran and sunnah makes u right and yeh i agree wid u ....... 98 % of world's scholars always prefer thier school of thought over the Quran and hadith

thats what i meant, someone said "follow their own scholar"
i meant every scholar has his own interpretation and this leads to dis-unity, we should follow the quran and sunnah instead..
Hope a day will come when the scholars will unite on the principles and leave aside their school of thought

 

[Ahmedfj]

thats what i meant, someone said "follow their own scholar"
i meant every scholar has his own interpretation and this leads to dis-unity, we should follow the quran and sunnah instead..
Hope a day will come when the scholars will unite on the principles and leave aside their school of thought

yups ... among all the scholars whom i have listened to .. there are only 3-4 like zakir naik, abdul raheem green and masood-ud-din usmani who dont follow any particular school of thought .. just hadith and Quran

 

[badrobot14]

following a scholar doesnt mean u r right .. following the Quran and sunnah makes u right and yeh i agree wid u ....... 98 % of world's scholars always prefer thier school of thought over the Quran and hadith

thats what i meant, someone said "follow their own scholar"
i meant every scholar has his own interpretation and this leads to dis-unity, we should follow the quran and sunnah instead..
Hope a day will come when the scholars will unite on the principles and leave aside their school of thought

You guys are wrong about scholars... I used to think the same way until I read some works of scholars and met knowledgeable people... scholars of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah (those who follow Sunnah based on understanding of righteous predecessors) are amazing.. the one who tainted the name of scholars in ur head are ppl u see on TV, giving fatwas against one another...
you need to have a lot of knowledge b4 you give rulings.. you may know 1 hadith but not it's context or how it fits with other ahadith.. same with interpreating the Quran for legal purposes especially.

There was an imam who was asked a question and he Quoted Imam malik as answer. Someone asked why did u quote; here's his reply (I loved it):

Great question. Scholars noted that a person who has not been trained in the usul should avoid quoting verses and hadith that carry legal intent (where there is room form interpretation). “The dalil are not used unless their usul are.” Is a great axiom that protects the deen from the over zealous and the laxed. For that reason, we refer to those who are more knowledgeable then us in understanding the deen.

Imam Malik said, “I studied with over 700 scholars of Medina, all of them giving me permission to grant fatwa, before I did so.” Certainly we should feel comfortable with his answer (it is not binding of course) instead of simply going to the books of hadith or tafsir and making our own ijtihad, especially if a person is not trained, or learned from a person who learned from books- did not sit with the scholars for any serious amount of time! Imam ibn Taymiyya said, “In such cases, it is an obligation to ask the people who know.”

Thus, my quoting Imam Malik (ra) whose grandfather was a companion of the Prophet (sa) and whose father was a student of the companions (ra) should in know way cause you confusion. It is simply acting on the verse, “Ask those who know if you don’t.”

If you feel comfortable in going to the books of hadith and the Qur’an without having the perquisite knowledge, that is between you and Allah. If you feel that you have reached the level of ijtihad, then that is between you and him as well.

Often times our backgrounds and experiences, tend to smog our vision. I had a friend who was a shia before. After coming to Ahl Sunna he was so against the concept of Imamat that he swerved to another extreme- I don’t need to the people of knowledge, I just need what the Prophet (sa) said. That is problematic considering this person did not the basics of the Arabic language or Usul needed to understand what the Prophet (sa) was saying. Point being that sometimes our experiences, although they guide us to the truth by God’s leave, if not thought out and seen as a total process, can lead us to0 far to, one extreme or the other.

May Allah grant us insaf.

So we follow Quran and hadith but we ask scholars to give us answers in light of Quran and sunnah...

yups ... among all the scholars whom i have listened to .. there are only 3-4 like zakir naik, abdul raheem green and masood-ud-din usmani who dont follow any particular school of thought .. just hadith and Quran

I dunno but you must have seen Dr. Zakir naik does quote Shykh Albanee. same way many preachers quote ibn taymiyah... (If you saw an aqeedah text by ibn taymiyyah u'd love it that he quotes from Quran n ahadith to support his claim..)

 

[..sacrifice4Revenge..]

You guys are wrong about scholars... I used to think the same way until I read some works of scholars and met knowledgeable people... scholars of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah (those who follow Sunnah based on understanding of righteous predecessors) are amazing.. the one who tainted the name of scholars in ur head are ppl u see on TV, giving fatwas against one another......

I never said that scholars are wrong, who can be better in religious knowledge than them
what i meant was that they seem to agree less with eachother and thats not good for the community in general

 

[AtemisDelta]

n abt schools of thought...... i wont go in details but we must agree that all da 4 Aimma were excellent in their islamic jurisprudence... we ought 2 respect them n regard em in high esteem....... however as all of em have directly issued a saying that donot follow any of our rulings if they go against Quran n Sunnah .... n One cn follow a particular Madhab but practice caution.... I know of great renowned scholars who follow a Madhab n theyre just awesome
However its an extremely sad state ppl blindly follow personalities forgetting they were human n prone 2 erreors n thus almost elevatin their status 2 God (naudhu billah min zalik)
Such kind of Taqleed-e- Shaksiyyah is Haram in Islam....... I know of a sect dat donot tie their hands in Qiyam in Salat becoz their Imam didnt do so...... N if we analyse the Imam life n history , it was due 2 paralysis in his arms his arms due 2 torture inflicted upon him...

We ought to respect all Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah scholars n regard them in high esteem: namely amongst em : the 4 aimmah, the authors of the sahihain, Bukhari n Muslim, Ibn Al Qayyim, Ibn Taymiyyah, OF recent: Ibn Baaz, Al Albanee ....etc, etc.....(Rahimamullah)
But we ought not 2 forget they too were Mujtahideen( ppl who practised persoanl legal excegesis ) n are humans , so can falter

 

[badrobot14]

n abt schools of thought...... i wont go in details but we must agree that all da 4 Aimma were excellent in their islamic jurisprudence... we ought 2 respect them n regard em in high esteem....... however as all of em have directly issued a saying that donot follow any of our rulings if they go against Quran n Sunnah .... n One cn follow a particular Madhab but practice caution.... I know of great renowned scholars who follow a Madhab n theyre just awesome
However its an extremely sad state ppl blindly follow personalities forgetting they were human n prone 2 erreors n thus almost elevatin their status 2 God (naudhu billah min zalik)
Such kind of Taqleed-e- Shaksiyyah is Haram in Islam....... I know of a sect dat donot tie their hands in Qiyam in Salat becoz their Imam didnt do so...... N if we analyse the Imam life n history , it was due 2 paralysis in his arms his arms due 2 torture inflicted upon him...

We ought to respect all Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah scholars n regard them in high esteem: namely amongst em : the 4 aimmah, the authors of the sahihain, Bukhari n Muslim, Ibn Al Qayyim, Ibn Taymiyyah, OF recent: Ibn Baaz, Al Albanee ....etc, etc.....(Rahimamullah)
But we ought not 2 forget they too were Mujtahideen( ppl who practised persoanl legal excegesis ) n are humans , so can falter

exactly.. we don't blindly follow... no teacher can be perfect after RasoolAllah (S.A.W).... so if we find their own opinion contradicting a saheeh hadith.. we take the hadith.
But we don't go to other extreme either, shunning the scholars of AhlSunnah... they were the defenders of true Islam.. For instance Imam Ahmed had to suffer severe torture coz he was on the truth against the great fitnah of his time... (the rulers were trying to promote wrong ideas about Quran which is the word of Allah as mentioned in Quran)... so we respect them and their opinion/ijtihad to ours... (at least until ur an aalim )

 

[ayeshaddy]

I also want to participate!

 

[XPFMember]

I also want to participate!

Assalamoalaikum wr wb!

Jazakillahu khairen...

Thanks a lot for coming forward. May Allah make it easy for you, and increase you in your Imaan. Aameen!

Ya Allah, guide us all..please..!

 

[ayeshaddy]

Assalamoalaikum wr wb!

Jazakillahu khairen...

Thanks a lot for coming forward. May Allah make it easy for you, and increase you in your Imaan. Aameen!

Ya Allah, guide us all..please..!

In sha Allah! Aameen!

 

[Unicorn]

really? he is open to opinions and changing his if he is convinced while u aren't..

it is not my fault you flopped at convincing me

 

[..sacrifice4Revenge..]

it is not my fault you flopped at convincing me

it's not my fault that ur heart aint open for a dialogue

 

[confused123]

just keeping the dangerous religious discussions on the forums at one aside and i would say that music really freshens you up, takes your depression away. there are many soothing and healing musics which can make you feel really better. i have a deep love and affection for many types of music. but i think we should avoid those songs which include vulgar speech.

 

[..sacrifice4Revenge..]

just keeping the dangerous religious discussions on the forums at one aside and i would say that music really freshens you up, takes your depression away. there are many soothing and healing musics which can make you feel really better. i have a deep love and affection for many types of music. but i think we should avoid those songs which include vulgar speech.

Reading the Quran freshens ur soul better, as well as it is better for ur after life.
I love the feeling when I concentrate on a particular verse of the quran and try to comprehend it..

 

[confused123]

Reading the Quran freshens ur soul better, as well as it is better for ur after life.
I love the feeling when I concentrate on a particular verse of the quran and try to comprehend it..

Thank you.

 

[Executor]

I would love to join this fruitful conversation but insAllah after the exams Then i will present my side of story and you guys can convince me Till then remember me your Prayers.

 

[XPFMember]

I would love to join this fruitful conversation but insAllah after the exams Then i will present my side of story and you guys can convince me Till then remember me your Prayers.

Assalamoalaikum wr wb!

May Allah grant you success in this world as well as the HereAfter ...Aameen
may Allah increase your imaan