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Question 5b(iii) Can some one please explain?

and in same Question c(ii) part they said use your information from b(i),b(ii) & c(i)..........

How can we use the part b(ii) answer to help us in this question????
 
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21/M/J/12

Question 5b(iii) Can some one please explain?

and in same Question c(ii) part they said use your information from b(i),b(ii) & c(i)..........

How can we use the part b(ii) answer to help us in this question????

1 molecule of X produces 2 hydrogen atoms. The hydrogen atoms come off of the -OH group as H+, leaving behind -ONa.

The reaction is, X + Na ---------> XNa + H2

The -OH group in X, has H replaced by Na. This gives 1 hydrogen atom.
In the products we have two hydrogen atoms, so there has to be another -OH group present.

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I'm assuming when they say use your answer to b) ii) they're referring to the fact that 2 hydrogen atoms are formed. So X must have 2 hydrogen atoms.

However I find there's a much easier way to deducing the structure of X and it can probably save you a lot of time as well,

They tell you at the start the Mr of X is 90. The empirical formula of X being CH2O.

C = 12 g, H = 1 g, O = 16 g

Using the ratio of 1 C: 2 H : 1 O you get 12+2+16 = 30 g

You can use this to find out how much C, H and O contribute to 90 g.

90/30 * 1:2:1, since that is the ratio of C:H:O in the empirical formula.

This gives you C3H6O3 which is the molecular formula of X.

A chain of 3 carbons, CHO must be at the end of the chain. The 2 OH groups can be on the same carbon, or one on each.

You can then attach the remaining C and H atoms depending on where a bond can be made.

Route 1 ------> CH(OH)2CH2CHO

Route 2 ---------> CH2(OH)CH(OH)CHO

Route 3 -----------------> CH3C(OH)2CHO

Hope that helps :)
 
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For 1, bromoethane from ethanol is a reaction that requires heating an alcohol under reflux, and then distilling off the halogenoalkane. The alcohol being ethanol here and the halogenoalkane formed being bromotethane.

The very fact that the halogenoalkane has to be distilled can confirm the necessity of having such a set up, since the halogenoalkane can be collected as a distillate in the flask attached to the end of the liebig condenser.

For 2, ethanal forming from ethanol is due to the oxidation of ethanol. This does require for the reaction mixture to be warmed before the oxidation takes place, and in the end you are also required to collect the aldehyde as a distillate.

For 3, 1,2-dibromoethane forming from bromine and ethene is done by bubbling an alkene through a solution of a halogen on the form X2.

So for 1.2-dibromoehane, it would simply have to be bubbled through a solution of bromine at room temperature ( aka no heating required ).

From all of the above options, the only two that require heating and distillation to take place are 1 and 2. Which is option B.

Hope that helped (y)
thnk u HELPED A LOT :D
 
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1 molecule of X produces 2 hydrogen atoms. The hydrogen atoms come off of the -OH group as H+, leaving behind -ONa.

The reaction is, X + Na ---------> XNa + H2

The -OH group in X, has H replaced by Na. This gives 1 hydrogen atom.
In the products we have two hydrogen atoms, so there has to be another -OH group present.

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I'm assuming when they say use your answer to b) ii) they're referring to the fact that 2 hydrogen atoms are formed. So X must have 2 hydrogen atoms.

However I find there's a much easier way to deducing the structure of X and it can probably save you a lot of time as well,

They tell you at the start the Mr of X is 90. The empirical formula of X being CH2O.

C = 12 g, H = 1 g, O = 16 g

Using the ratio of 1 C: 2 H : 1 O you get 12+2+16 = 30 g

You can use this to find out how much C, H and O contribute to 90 g.

90/30 * 1:2:1, since that is the ratio of C:H:O in the empirical formula.

This gives you C3H6O3 which is the molecular formula of X.

A chain of 3 carbons, CHO must be at the end of the chain. The 2 OH groups can be on the same carbon, or one on each.

You can then attach the remaining C and H atoms depending on where a bond can be made.

Route 1 ------> CH(OH)2CH2CHO

Route 2 ---------> CH2(OH)CH(OH)CHO

Route 3 -----------------> CH3C(OH)2CHO

Hope that helps :)
Thanks a lot.Great Explanation
 
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21/M/J/11

Question 1 (c) (ii) Can anyone explain???????

Question 3 (d) part????????


Question 1:

2 C14H30 + 43 O2 ----------> 28 CO2 + 30 H2O

1 tonne = 1000 kg
x tonnes = 10.8kg
x = 0.0108 tonnes for 1 km

For 8195 km = 8195 * 0.0108 = 88.506 tonnes

Molar mass of C14H30 = 198g ---> 0.198 kg ------->1.98 x 10^-4 tonnes

88.506 / 1.98 x 10^-4 = 447,000 moles of C14H30 used for 8195 km.

2 moles of C14H30 ----> 28 moles of CO2.
447,000 moles of C14H30 ------> x moles of CO2.
x = 6,258,000 moles of CO2 formed.

Mass of CO2 formed = moles of CO2 * molar mass of CO2 in tonnes

Molar mass of CO2 = 44g = 0.044 kg = 4.4 x 10^-5 tonnes

Mass of CO2 formed = (4.4 x 10^-5) * 6,258,000 =275.352 tonnes of CO2.
Which is basically 275 tonnes.

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reaction 1 is W ----> Z. First find Z,

This is Ca(OH)2 + H2SO4 ------> CaSO4 + 2H2O, Since Z is (s), it should be CaSO4.

W is Ca(NO3)2. Your goal is to go from Ca(NO3)2 -------> CaSO4.

So you end up with something like this,

Ca(NO3)2 + XSO4 ------> CaSO4 + X(NO3)2
or
Ca(NO3)2 + X2SO4 -------> CaSO4 + XNO3

The only two possible options for X in this case, are elements from group 1 and group 2.

Hope that helped! :)
 
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is it true that warm conc kmno4 doesn't react with alcohol at all?

Nope. It does react with alcohols, just not under warm conditions. They don't recommend using it because say for instance you want to prepare an aldehyde from a primary alcohol, KMNO4 will end up over oxidizing the alcohol all the way until it becomes a carboxylic acid.

So yes it does react with alcohols, just not under the same conditions as the alkenes.
 
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Question 1:

2 C14H30 + 43 O2 ----------> 28 CO2 + 30 H2O

1 tonne = 1000 kg
x tonnes = 10.8kg
x = 0.0108 tonnes for 1 km

For 8195 km = 8195 * 0.0108 = 88.506 tonnes

Molar mass of C14H30 = 198g ---> 0.198 kg ------->1.98 x 10^-4 tonnes

88.506 / 1.98 x 10^-4 = 447,000 moles of C14H30 used for 8195 km.

2 moles of C14H30 ----> 28 moles of CO2.
447,000 moles of C14H30 ------> x moles of CO2.
x = 6,258,000 moles of CO2 formed.

Mass of CO2 formed = moles of CO2 * molar mass of CO2 in tonnes

Molar mass of CO2 = 44g = 0.044 kg = 4.4 x 10^-5 tonnes

Mass of CO2 formed = (4.4 x 10^-5) * 6,258,000 =275.352 tonnes of CO2.
Which is basically 275 tonnes.

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reaction 1 is W ----> Z. First find Z,

This is Ca(OH)2 + H2SO4 ------> CaSO4 + 2H2O, Since Z is (s), it should be CaSO4.

W is Ca(NO3)2. Your goal is to go from Ca(NO3)2 -------> CaSO4.

So you end up with something like this,

Ca(NO3)2 + XSO4 ------> CaSO4 + X(NO3)2
or
Ca(NO3)2 + X2SO4 -------> CaSO4 + XNO3

The only two possible options for X in this case, are elements from group 1 and group 2.

Hope that helped! :)
Thanks for the help Buddy.........
 
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Y is an organic compund. Y gives ppt aqueous silver nitrate. All of this ppt dissolves when concentrated ammonia is added. What is possible identity of Y ?
1- bromopropane
2-chlororethane
3-iodo-2-methylpropane
 
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Which isomer of C4 H10 O forms three alkenes on dehydration ?
A . butan-1-ol
B . butan-2-ol
C. 2-methylpropan-1-ol
D 2-methylpropan-2-ol
 
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21/O/N/09

Question 5 (d) help??????????

I usually face trouble when it comes to these types of questions any tips on how to do them????

Errr... This question is quite tricky to explain partially because of the fact that the question is based off of the syllabus back in 2009.

Anyways, the process of forming the cyclic compound from J, is known as cyclic esterification. Cyclic esters are actually called lactones.

The process is as follows, if you have a hydroxy-carboxylic acid ( Hydroxypropanoic acid in this question ), you can have it undergo an "intra"molecular reaction.

Normally during any esterification process, you want a carboxylic acid, alcohol and some heat. However in cyclic esterification, you do not need the presence of an alcohol. You can make do with simply having a hydroxy carboxylic acid and some heat.

That is where the term " intra " comes into play, they have the hydroxycarboxylic acid react within itself to form an ester that has the ability to form a cyclic compound.

There's some advanced theory that involves the inclusion of a dynamic equilibrium, hence the requirement of a catalyst is necessary, more specifically an acid catalyst.

In this question, you have your hydroxycarboxylic acid ( hydroxypropanoic acid ) and an acid catalyst ( Conc. sulfuric acid. ). You're also told that the molecular formula is C6H8O4.

At the start of the question, it mentions that J has 3 carbons. If the molecular formula of L has 6 carbons, that means two molecules of J have been used, and so 2 ester groups will form.

With the two Ester groups, you can have them attach in the shape of a ring ( forming a cyclic compound ), both of them having the formula RCOO-, the diagram in the marking scheme is a good example of how they attach.

Screen Shot 2015-04-15 at 8.24.38 PM.png The red part is one ester group. You can tell since R is C2H4 and then you have COO.

I would just recommend knowing what is required to make a cyclic ester, and the basic ester group notation. The rest is far too complicated for AS level, since lactones are technically part of the A2 syllabus.

Hope that helped (y)
 
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Y is an organic compund. Y gives ppt aqueous silver nitrate. All of this ppt dissolves when concentrated ammonia is added. What is possible identity of Y ?
1- bromopropane
2-chlororethane
3-iodo-2-methylpropane

When the question states that Y gives a ppt "with" aqueous silver nitrate, you should immediately be able to remember that this is a test for halide ions. Which are the group 7 elements consisting of Cl, Br and I.

The second part of the question is also important, since it can help us eliminate an option.

All 3 compounds, give a ppt with aqueous silver nitrate.
Cl- is soluble in aqueous ammonia.
Br- is slightly soluble in "dilute" ammonia, but soluble in "concentrated" ammonia.
I- is insoluble in both, dilute and concentrated.

Since Iodine disagrees with statement two, which is that it dissolves in conc. ammonia when it clearly does not, we can eliminate option 3.

Both option 1 and 2 have halide ions that are soluble in concentrated ammonia, so they are correct.

Your answer should be B, since that states that both option 1 and 2 are correct.

Hope that helped! (y)
 
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Thanks man
When the question states that Y gives a ppt "with" aqueous silver nitrate, you should immediately be able to remember that this is a test for halide ions. Which are the group 7 elements consisting of Cl, Br and I.

The second part of the question is also important, since it can help us eliminate an option.

All 3 compounds, give a ppt with aqueous silver nitrate.
Cl- is soluble in aqueous ammonia.
Br- is slightly soluble in "dilute" ammonia, but soluble in "concentrated" ammonia.
I- is insoluble in both, dilute and concentrated.

Since Iodine disagrees with statement two, which is that it dissolves in conc. ammonia when it clearly does not, we can eliminate option 3.

Both option 1 and 2 have halide ions that are soluble in concentrated ammonia, so they are correct.

Your answer should be B, since that states that both option 1 and 2 are correct.

Hope that helped! (y)
Thanks man !
 
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Which isomer of C4 H10 O forms three alkenes on dehydration ?
A . butan-1-ol
B . butan-2-ol
C. 2-methylpropan-1-ol
D 2-methylpropan-2-ol

Primary alcohols, upon dehydration, will always give 1 product.
Secondary or tertiary alcohols can give 1 or more products, as a result of this you can also have cis/trans products. Each counting as one product.

Knowing this you can safely eliminate option A and C. Now you're left with B and D, which is butan-2-ol and 2-methylpropan-2-ol.

At this point I would recommend drawing out the displayed formula of both, so you are able to see where the double bond can be made when the -OH group is removed.
Since dehydration is going from an alcohol -------> an alkene.

For 2-methylpropan-2-ol, There's 3 carbons attached to the carbon holding the -OH group. Which means it's a tertiary alcohol. Another thing to note is that you can only form 1 double bond with any of the 3 carbons, meaning you can only have 1 product in this case.

For butan-2-ol, the second carbon is holding the -OH group. There are 4 carbons in the chain, if the -OH group is removed, the 2nd carbon can only form a double bond with the 1st and 3rd carbon ( its neighbours ). This is where the cis/trans isomerism thingy comes to the rescue, when the double bond is between the 2nd and 3rd carbon, you can now have cis and trans isomerism across the double bond.

Screen Shot 2015-04-15 at 9.01.41 PM.png Screen Shot 2015-04-15 at 9.01.51 PM.png

This gives you 3 products from butan-2-ol, and so your answer is B.

Hope that helps! If it didn't make sense, I can draw out the other products for you. (y)
 
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Errr... This question is quite tricky to explain partially because of the fact that the question is based off of the syllabus back in 2009.

Anyways, the process of forming the cyclic compound from J, is known as cyclic esterification. Cyclic esters are actually called lactones.

The process is as follows, if you have a hydroxy-carboxylic acid ( Hydroxypropanoic acid in this question ), you can have it undergo an "intra"molecular reaction.

Normally during any esterification process, you want a carboxylic acid, alcohol and some heat. However in cyclic esterification, you do not need the presence of an alcohol. You can make do with simply having a hydroxy carboxylic acid and some heat.

That is where the term " intra " comes into play, they have the hydroxycarboxylic acid react within itself to form an ester that has the ability to form a cyclic compound.

There's some advanced theory that involves the inclusion of a dynamic equilibrium, hence the requirement of a catalyst is necessary, more specifically an acid catalyst.

In this question, you have your hydroxycarboxylic acid ( hydroxypropanoic acid ) and an acid catalyst ( Conc. sulfuric acid. ). You're also told that the molecular formula is C6H8O4.

At the start of the question, it mentions that J has 3 carbons. If the molecular formula of L has 6 carbons, that means two molecules of J have been used, and so 2 ester groups will form.

With the two Ester groups, you can have them attach in the shape of a ring ( forming a cyclic compound ), both of them having the formula RCOO-, the diagram in the marking scheme is a good example of how they attach.

View attachment 52069 The red part is one ester group. You can tell since R is C2H4 and then you have COO.

I would just recommend knowing what is required to make a cyclic ester, and the basic ester group notation. The rest is far too complicated for AS level, since lactones are technically part of the A2 syllabus.

Hope that helped (y)
Oh Thanks a dozen...............
It really helped a lot

O/N/13/21 Q 5 part (f) can you please explain????
And when it comes to these types of questions what sort of clues should we take from question to help us draw the structure?

One again Thanks
 
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Oh Thanks a dozen...............
It really helped a lot

O/N/13/21 Q 5 part (f) can you please explain????
And when it comes to these types of questions what sort of clues should we take from question to help us draw the structure?

One again Thanks

There's no part f :/

Generally you want to know how many carbons, hydrogens, oxygens if any, are there. Then you want to know what kind of functional groups are present. Accordingly you'll have to arrange the functional groups and the length of the longest chain in order to get what you need.
 
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question 4 plzzzzzzzz ,,,

View attachment 52085

For a fixed quantity of gas, that is the amount of gas present does not increase ( add gas ) or decrease ( gas escapes ), ( A closed valve indicates that nothing is escaping ) we can use the following relation:

p1V1/T1 =p2V2/T2

1 x 10^ 5 * V / 293 Kelvin = final pressure * 4V / 373 Kelvin

V is the volume before the valve is opened. 4V is the total volume after some gas is evacuated. That is 3V for N and 1V for M.

341.3 V = final pressure * 4V / 373 K

Final pressure = 373 K * 341.3 V / 4V
Final pressure = 31826.225 pascals -------> 3.18 x 10^4 Pascals.

Hope that helped! (y)
 
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