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No ur getting it wrong......the point we were tryng to specify was tht if democratic leaders hav inflicted damage to country nd thn thy r forgiven,army leaders shuld be excused fr their part in any damage whch is barely one third of the damage nd by democratic leadersWars for British, if you recall. Both Ayub and Zia were in the British Army once.
U dnt mean tht army has only nd bad to pak....nd it has no part or share in glory of pakWars for British, if you recall. Both Ayub and Zia were in the British Army once.
And please, don't drag the corrupt politicians into this. Everyone knows and talks about their corruption. And it is totally illegal.thats my point you are saying that 70% budget allocation for them y dont u count our politicians each one of them will have a bigger place to live and what are they doing for our country every1 knows
When have I ever said that the army should be punished? All I'm saying is that their history should be clear to us just like the politicians', that their share of budget should be reduced to a fair percentage, and their role in politics minimized.No ur getting it wrong......the point we were tryng to specify was tht if democratic leaders hav inflicted damage to country nd thn thy r forgiven,army leaders shuld be excused fr their part in any damage
It can be..but dnt u thnk tht rather thn cutting budget frm army....it's btr if the money tht is lost in corruption is used by removing ths who commit it.....Thy deserve tht moneyAnd please, don't drag the corrupt politicians into this. Everyone knows and talks about their corruption. And it is totally illegal.
But the army gets that share quite legally. Don't you think we should spend some amount of that in other developmental projects, like electricity, gas, and on the poor who die of famine? Isn't that part of protecting your people?
When he should be preventing the war. Fighting against your own countrymen after treating them like slaves is no patriotism.Nd ths people who criticize Ayub....let me tell u one thng tht guy..aftr his resignation in 1969 I reckon...in 1971 he said tht he wants to fight in pak Bengal war nd reached their head quarters to fight.
But ofc he was rightly rejected cux of his old age....such was his patriotism
U knw the politics in our country rgt?When have I ever said that the army should be punished? All I'm saying is that their history should be clear to us just like the politicians', that their share of budget should be reduced to a fair percentage, and their role in politics should be minimized.
Definitely, but that alone won't be enough. Hell, even if the share of the army is reduced, it won't be enough to raise the economic status of those poor who can't even afford to eat twice a day. But they deserve that much, and not those army officer who only care about their life after retirement.It can be..but dnt u thnk tht rather thn cutting budget frm army....it's btr if the money tht is lost in corruption is used by removing ths who commit it.....Thy deserve tht money
See bro..I believe tht Bengal shuld nvr hav been wth pak...it shuld hav been separated in 1947 itself....if not at tht tym...it wuld hav been dn later....evn ppl of Bengal considered thmslvs diffrnt frm us....maybe it was due to our behavior....but thts anthr discussion...I believe seperation was imminentWhen he should be preventing the war. Fighting against your own countrymen after treating them like slaves is no patriotism.
Army is never neutral in these situations. Our history is proof of that.U knw the politics in our country rgt?
Each official frm a buerocrat to PM himslf is corrupt....free nd fair elections can only be held under a neutral force....u maybe rgt tht army is not always neutral...but is there a btr option.
Evn if IK cms he will nvr be able to chng the mindset of the ppl.....almost half of our population thrive on corruption...while othr half hav to pay fr it
It shuld be politicians now who shuld be made accountable.Definitely, but that alone won't be enough. Hell, even if the share of the army is reduced, it won't be enough to raise the economic status of those poor who can't even afford to eat twice a day. But they deserve that much, and not those army officer who only care about their life after retirement.
Hmmm....ur rgt there history proves tht...but is there any othr reliable option...if we can try these politicians fr 6th tym...y not giv army one chance....Army is never neutral in these situations. Our history is proof of that.
Exactly, he can't. But he can sow the seeds, of which we may someday reap the harvest.
A response would only trigger something that we can't risk at this time. The fact is that they cannot attack us and we cannot attack them. Both are equally capable of destroying each other. And countries never commit mutual suicide.It shuld be politicians now who shuld be made accountable.
Fr a poor man...who only needs to hv sm living nd needs to fill his stomach...it doesn't matter fr him tht who provides him tht food,...army IK or Noora....currently it's our politicians tht need to be made accountable.....we r at bottom now...just imagine bro tht India is threatening us....not tht any paki wuld be afraid of their stupid threats....but at least these leader shuld hav given a reasonable response...tht wuld shut thm up...lyk Musharraf did in 2007
Don't say that. Army has been in power for more years than any democratic government. They have had their chances.Hmmm....ur rgt there history proves tht...but is there any othr reliable option...if we can try these politicians fr 6th tym...y not giv army one chance....
Nd abt IK...he needs at least ten years of govt to brng a chng...nd I hope tht iA he will be able to do tht
That's right. And how we treated our Bengalis brothers, regardless of who was the actual culprit, is condemnable in the strongest of words.See bro..I believe tht Bengal shuld nvr hav been wth pak...it shuld hav been separated in 1947 itself....if not at tht tym...it wuld hav been dn later....evn ppl of Bengal considered thmslvs diffrnt frm us....maybe it was due to our behavior....but thts anthr discussion...I believe seperation was imminent
But bro tht doesn't mean thy can threaten us all thy luk nd we can't evn reply to thm....I knw thy dnt hav guts to attack us...dispute against India is one thng rallies our whole country...if not attack thm....just respond thm wth smthng tht wuld shut thm up....I mean dnt giv thm an idea tht we r too weak evn to respond...bupy just sayng tht we want dialogues...indeed dialogues is the best option but India needs to be shut up at ths momentmomentA response would only trigger something that we can't risk at this time. The fact is that they cannot attack us and we cannot attack them. Both are equally capable of destroying each other. And countries never commit suicide.
So, it's better to improve our relations with them, spend not on new missiles to threaten India, but on our own people.
Ofc...evn though their demand aftr thts election were quite strange....nd were bound to attract criticism ....thy were negotiable instead if just going and attack thm only bcx bhutto incited thm.....thy are our Muslim brothersThat's right. And how we treated our Bengalis brothers, regardless of who was the actual culprit, it is condemnable in the strongest of words.
But I dnt see any future if pak....evn in nxt election if there's same rigging..the results wuld be same.either zardari or Noora will cmmin power....the rigging shuld be stooped...nd if not army to cm in between thn who wuld?Don't say that. Army has been in power for more years than any democratic government. They have had their chances.
Maybe, it would shut them up, but won't harm them in any way.But bro tht doesn't mean thy can threaten us all thy luk nd we can't evn reply to thm....I knw thy dnt hav guts to attack us...dispute against India is one thng rallies our whole country...if not attack thm....just respond thm wth smthng tht wuld shut thm up....I mean dnt giv thm an idea tht we r too weak evn to respond...bupy just sayng tht we want dialogues...indeed dialogues is the best option but India needs to be shut up at ths momentmoment
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