ATTENTION PLEASE -- All Muslim Brothers and Sisters

[XPFMember]

im sorry to bother you guyz ! i know i have nothin to do here but i really wanna know more !
apology again !

u don't need to be sorry!! it's good u want to know more about..and I pray may Allah guide you and us all...
i appreciate ur interest and hope u guided the best way...

and as per ur question....for fun time pass and all that is prohibited...like a mix party ....boys girls hanging around and all that..!!
if it's really like imp and there's no other way...then rulings are one shud lower the gaze and..
Allaah says:". . . then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner." [al-Ahzaab:32]
So talk to them when there is a specific need, and in a manner that is not necessarily rude, yet it is polite but firm.

 

[XPFMember]

mmm ... ! guess it just needs some time for me to get all this =p
it sounds abit complicated ! each has a different view on here

thx for replying

thats the problemm...ppl argue n comment but sadly no correct knowledge
u need to look for authentic sources..like quran and hadith rather then people's opinion

 

[SalmanPakRocks]

thats the problemm...ppl argue n comment but sadly no correct knowledge
u need to look for authentic sources..like quran and hadith rather then people's opinion

Yes. Only accept those comments which have authentic sources like Quran and hadith. A knowledge of man is simply not enough to judge between right and wrong.

 

[DANGERBP]

u don't need to be sorry!! it's good u want to know more about..and I pray may Allah guide you and us all...
i appreciate ur interest and hope u guided the best way...

and as per ur question....for fun time pass and all that is prohibited...like a mix party ....boys girls hanging around and all that..!!
if it's really like imp and there's no other way...then rulings are one shud lower the gaze and..
Allaah says:". . . then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner." [al-Ahzaab:32]
So talk to them when there is a specific need, and in a manner that is not necessarily rude, yet it is polite but firm.

thx yo ! =)
i dono i think its hard for me askin help from a dude tht i never spoken to ..........

 

[DANGERBP]

thats the problemm...ppl argue n comment but sadly no correct knowledge
u need to look for authentic sources..like quran and hadith rather then people's opinion

ya man sure do ! thx

 

[XPFMember]

So 2 of them voted for : Yes I think there's nothing wrong in it at all!
and 8 of them for: I know it's wrong so I try to avoid it.

so those who did for the option 'I know it's wrong so I try to avoid it. ', i hope that was the truth! that option is actually...as in u really never talk to girls (or the other way round) for fun?!
Please..just a small request....don't chose the option simply...Prophet peace be upon him said that a muslim can never lie!
and i'm just saying..may not be the case with all of u..even if u feel that it isnt really the case with u but just not to get urself down in the eyes of any and u go for sum other option..plz dont do that...this thread was created just because i wanted to make others know that this is wrong if they didnt knew...and ofcourse because i saw many doing this...!
Anyway...we are here...to help each other around and inshaAllah in front of Allah we dont feel ashamed for doing something wrong! being ashamed today, just so that we dont be tom. is way better...!

 

[PhyZac]

Assalam Alikum.......

Praise be to Allaah.
It is known in the religion of Allaah that it is forbidden to follow in the footsteps of the Shaytaan. Everything that could lead a person to fall into haraam things is also haraam, even if in principle it is originally permitted. This is what the scholars call “the principle of warding off harm.”
Concerning this matter, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Follow not the footsteps of Shaytaan.” [al-Noor 24:21].
With regard to the second matter, He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allaah, lest they insult Allaah wrongfully without knowledge…” [al-An’aam 6:108]
Here Allaah forbids the believers to insult the mushrikeen lest that leads to them insulting the Lord, may He be glorified and exalted.
There are many examples of this principle in sharee’ah. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) mentioned many of them and explained them well in his excellent book A’laam al-Muwaqqi’een. (See 3/147-171 thereof).
The issue under discussion here also comes under this category. Conversation – whether verbally or in writing – between men and women is permissible in and of itself, but it may be a way of falling into the traps of the Shaytaan.
Whoever knows that he is somewhat weak, and is afraid that he may fall into the traps of the Shaytaan, has to refrain from such conversations, in order to save himself.
Whoever is sure that he will be able to remain steadfast, then we think that it is permissible in his case, but there are certain conditions:
The conversation should not be allowed to wander too far from the topic being discussed; or it should be for the purposes of calling others to Islam.
They should not let their voices be soft, or use soft and gentle expressions.
They should not ask about personal matters that have no bearing on the matter being discussed, such as how old a person is, how tall he or she is, or where he or she lives… etc.
Other brothers (in the case of men) or sisters (in the case of women) should take part in the conversation or read the correspondence, so that the Shaytaan will find no way to enter the hearts of the people who are conversing or corresponding.
The conversation or correspondence must be halted immediately if the heart starts to stir with feelings of desire.
Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

 

[badrobot14]

.......
nd again you a girl ? or a guy ? but you givin advice to guyz in here nd you by that talk to guyz nd girlz i dono actually ?
......

reply, about interactions online:

Assalam Alikum.......

Praise be to Allaah.
It is known in the religion of Allaah that it is forbidden to follow in the footsteps of the Shaytaan. Everything that could lead a person to fall into haraam things is also haraam, even if in principle it is originally permitted. This is what the scholars call “the principle of warding off harm.”
Concerning this matter, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O you who believe! Follow not the footsteps of Shaytaan.” [al-Noor 24:21].
With regard to the second matter, He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allaah, lest they insult Allaah wrongfully without knowledge…” [al-An’aam 6:108]
Here Allaah forbids the believers to insult the mushrikeen lest that leads to them insulting the Lord, may He be glorified and exalted.
There are many examples of this principle in sharee’ah. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) mentioned many of them and explained them well in his excellent book A’laam al-Muwaqqi’een. (See 3/147-171 thereof).
The issue under discussion here also comes under this category. Conversation – whether verbally or in writing – between men and women is permissible in and of itself, but it may be a way of falling into the traps of the Shaytaan.
Whoever knows that he is somewhat weak, and is afraid that he may fall into the traps of the Shaytaan, has to refrain from such conversations, in order to save himself.
Whoever is sure that he will be able to remain steadfast, then we think that it is permissible in his case, but there are certain conditions:
The conversation should not be allowed to wander too far from the topic being discussed; or it should be for the purposes of calling others to Islam.
They should not let their voices be soft, or use soft and gentle expressions.
They should not ask about personal matters that have no bearing on the matter being discussed, such as how old a person is, how tall he or she is, or where he or she lives… etc.
Other brothers (in the case of men) or sisters (in the case of women) should take part in the conversation or read the correspondence, so that the Shaytaan will find no way to enter the hearts of the people who are conversing or corresponding.
The conversation or correspondence must be halted immediately if the heart starts to stir with feelings of desire.
Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

 

[Gergawy]

XPFMember , i want to ask u a question and i want u to answer truthfully , as u said the a Muslim dont lies ..

tell me , havent you talked to a girl ever , for fun or for any other case that is related to fun ???? (NO OFFENSE)
just asking

 

[alphabravocharlie]

Can i please get a final verdict in a single sentence,

 

[XPFMember]

XPFMember , i want to ask u a question and i want u to answer truthfully , as u said the a Muslim dont lies ..

tell me , havent you talked to a girl ever , for fun or for any other case that is related to fun ???? (NO OFFENSE)
just asking

well....yes i didnt for fun! one it did happen that had a talk with some member i guess 2 years ago...but when i came to know that person's gender...i told to stop and gave the reasons and then we never talked again till this day...! though we didnt go to some bad meanings ofcourse..but yet...i did tell off my gender and then clarified who s/he was...as in girl or a boy...and then we left...alhumdulilah..

alhumdulilah..i'm happy and as far as i remember i havent been involved for fun-related stuff!! may Allah forgive me if i dont remember..

 

[XPFMember]

Can i please get a final verdict in a single sentence,

for...?

 

[alphabravocharlie]

the topic, afew people say its okay to just talk, so

 

[XPFMember]

the topic, afew people say its okay to just talk, so

The thing is, what we are doing is talk for fun, time pass and thats it...is WRONG!

 

[Hemdon]

Asslamauikum, I dunno wether its true or not, and i need help here, chatting for a known purpose, i.e no loose talks, is it allowed in Islam??

 

[DANGERBP]

reply, about interactions online:

hmmm so you sayin it depends on the person himself !
well lol i so not use soft and gentle expressions =p so i shouldnt worry ? =p lolol
well but still what could go wrong online ? nothing if you havent given your adress name nd stuff o think !

hmm well nice view ! much more meaningful for my mind to get ! thnx

 

[XPFMember]

XPFMember , what u r asking from us to do is extremely hard :S

i believe that, sadly, we have sunk too far in this quicksand known as the westernization, to the point of no return,

just came across this, and guess it's relevant here :
You should also be certain that whoever gives up something for the sake of Allaah, Allaah will compensate him with something better than it, and whoever fears Allaah, Allaah will grant him a way out from every difficulty.
“And whosoever fears Allaah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty).
3. And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine”
[al-Talaaq 65:2-3]

 

[memyself15]

Assalam o alaikum wr wb!

Well, sadly I did know it was wrong yet I did do so. But now inshaAllah, I promise myself I'd try my best to stop, to seek Allah's pleasure.
I wanna end just to attain Allah's pleasure...
for "whoever gives up something for the sake of Allaah, Allaah will compensate him with something better than it, and whoever fears Allaah, Allaah will grant him a way out from every difficulty."
who ever i talked to (of opposite gender) help me put an end to this.
May Allah reward you all...
Jazakumullah khairen!

 

[GetSomeLife]

Asslamauikum, I dunno wether its true or not, and i need help here, chatting for a known purpose, i.e no loose talks, is it allowed in Islam??

No laughing, joking, or hanging out with non-Mahrams
Some sisters assume that since they are properly covered, its okay for them to sit around and talk, laugh, joke, etc. with the men, but that’s not right, even if he is ‘the Shaikh’. Allaah says:". . . then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner." [al-Ahzaab:32]
So talk to them when there is a specific need, and in a manner that is not necessarily rude, yet it is polite but firm.
Source..
[courtesy to XPFmember ]
IF it is a must then you are allowed BUT you have to make sure you follow the rules mentioned above.
As you yourself may have noticed, it is not possible to go according to these rules in social life of today... so i will recommend that you never start

I know i am not one to be advising about this but... anyways

 

[Hemdon]

No laughing, joking, or hanging out with non-Mahrams
Some sisters assume that since they are properly covered, its okay for them to sit around and talk, laugh, joke, etc. with the men, but that’s not right, even if he is ‘the Shaikh’. Allaah says:". . . then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner." [al-Ahzaab:32]
So talk to them when there is a specific need, and in a manner that is not necessarily rude, yet it is polite but firm.
Source..
[courtesy to XPFmember ]
IF it is a must then you are allowed BUT you have to make sure you follow the rules mentioned above.
As you yourself may have noticed, it is not possible to go according to these rules in social life of today... so i will recommend that you never start

I know i am not one to be advising about this but... anyways

Hey Bro, no offense, but ur popular on every1s wall....btw I mentioned CHATTING, where a person cannot see another person and just runs his hand over a keyboard....so is this type of chatting allowed in Islam???????