Who shall enter Jannah?

[abdxyz]

But there was an official preaching.
In 571 A.D the Holy Prophet (pbuh) was born and this marked the starting of the Era of Islam.
He preached. Battles and Wars took place. Blood was shed. People converted. Even people like Abu Sufyan who were sworn enemies of Islam converted to Islam.

Had such a preaching took place in other areas of world, won't Islam have been established as a majority religion there today?
Since it didn't take place, that means it is part of Allah's plan.

That was because, people didn't know about Islam in those days. Prophet(phuh) have completed his work and completed Islam.
Nowadays, most people will know about Islam. And if they didn't know anything about Islam, they might go to heaven.

By (the Token of) time (through the Ages), (1) Verily Man is in loss, (2) Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy. (3) Al Quran [103, 1-4]
Surah Asr: the above 4 conditions HAVE TO BE FULFILLED IN ORDER TO ATTAIN JANNAH. So DAWAH is an integral part of the condition and so is compulsory on us Muslims to do so: The prophet said- Convey from me even if you know 1 verse........ So there would be muslims who pray 5 times a day,etc but do not fulfill the 4 criteria, they wouldn't enter Jannah SO your previous point about OSAMA bin laden, he surely didnot spread Islam.... he degraded us muslims

 

[Fayax555]

Allah Almighty said that 'Paradise lies under your mother's feet'.
So a person ( a non-believer to be exact) who loves his/her mom more than anything, obeys her, makes her happy, don't you people think that he/she has secured place in Jannah? :')
Did Allah say that 'Paradise lies under the feet of a muslim's mother'?

I think one part of your post is wrong.
First, we should love Allah and his prophet(phuh), then only the mother will come.

 

[Iridescent]

But is it their fault they were born Non-Muslims?

People who were born Muslims, in a Muslim-Majority area, with Muslim parents just have to follow their teachings and it's easy for them.

But people who are not that lucky, and are born in Non-Muslim areas, where there are barely any Muslims. They have to overcome their ignorance, deviate from the path everyone else in that area is following, find out about Islam, research it alone, figure out what it is, then adopt it. This is a very hard task. They would have to go against their family, their society. Why would anyone even bother to do this? They have a life, with the religion their parents taught them. Why would they suddenly start to research about Islam?

So people who are born Muslims have an easy life, leading to Heaven, eventually. (Which has been decided in the previous posts - All Muslims will go to heaven)

But People who are not born Muslims, have to undergo extra work, extra pressure and overcome their ignorance and then turn to Islam.. And NO ONE does this.

So, in conclusion, it has been decided by Allah who will be a Muslim, and who won't. It's already decreed who will be lucky enough to be born a Muslim, who will be born a Non-Muslim.

It's true that it hard for them to leave their religion. But, we cannot say it's been decided by Allah s.w.t. Allah s.w.t would never want any human to associate partners with Him. This is completely up to the human beings.

 

[Fayax555]

It's true that it hard for them to leave their religion. But, we cannot say it's been decided by Allah s.w.t. Allah s.w.t would never want any human to associate partners with Him. This is completely up to the human beings.

Humans have free will. They can be a Muslim or a Non-Muslim.

 

[Toblerone]

I think one part of your post is wrong.
First, we should love Allah and his prophet(phuh), then only the mother will come.

.-.
Okay, tell me one thing. If all muslims will ultimately enter Jannah then why did Allah give us a moral code of life? Why are we afraid to commit sins if our destiny is Jannah besides all the sins we commit.
You guys are being too harsh to non-muslims. Even Allah has given them rights. At least, don't deny this fact!

 

[Nabeel.Ahmad]

It's true that it hard for them to leave their religion. But, we cannot say it's been decided by Allah s.w.t. Allah s.w.t would never want any human to associate partners with Him. This is completely up to the human beings.

No Non-Muslim would want to leave his religion, and turn to Islam. There is no Islamic Education in some places of the world.
In some parts of Africa, people are starving and don't even have food. They won't even find out about Islam, let alone study and convert.
A Hindu in India, follows the teachings of his forefathers. His forefathers have been performing the same rituals for centuries. Why would he suddenly let go of everything, follow his heart, start researching Islam? There are so many religions in the world, is he supposed to study all of them?
Certainly, he won't be able to convert to Islam unless there is a preaching of all people in his area.

So, a Non-Muslim who doesn't turn to Islam due to being born in a Non-Muslim country (Which was not under his control), by having Non-Muslim parents (Which was also not under his control)..will be thrown into Hell, just because he was not lucky enough to be born Muslim.
And even if there is an instinct in his heart about the oneness of God, how can he reach that instinct? When he is surrounded by Hindus?
He won't turn unless Allah wants him to.
This entire concept baffles me.

 

[Fayax555]

.-.
Okay, tell me one thing. If all muslims will ultimately enter Jannah then why did Allah give us a moral code of life? Why are we afraid to commit sins if our destiny is Jannah besides all the sins we commit.
You guys are being too harsh to non-muslims. Even Allah has given them rights. At least, don't deny this fact!

Sinned Muslims will go to Heaven only after facing the punishment in hell for his sins.
Even one second in Hell is unimaginable pain.

 

[Iridescent]

No Non-Muslim would want to leave his religion, and turn to Islam. There is no Islamic Education in some places of the world.
In some parts of Africa, people are starving and don't even have food. They won't even find out about Islam, let alone study and convert.
A Hindu in India, follows the teachings of his forefathers. His forefathers have been performing the same rituals for centuries. Why would he suddenly let go of everything, follow his heart, start researching Islam? There are so many religions in the world, is he supposed to study all of them?
Certainly, he won't be able to convert to Islam unless there is a preaching of all people in his area.

So, a Non-Muslim who doesn't turn to Islam due to being born in a Non-Muslim country (Which was not under his control), by having Non-Muslim parents (Which was also not under his control)..will be thrown into Hell, just because he was not lucky enough to be born Muslim.
And even if there is an instinct in his heart about the oneness of God, how can he reach that instinct? When he is surrounded by Hindus?
He won't turn unless Allah wants him to.
This entire concept baffles me.

It is not about studying something. I's about having the belief that my Lord's One and Only. Preaching of course helps. But if a person sincerely ponders over his beliefs and practise, he can certainly come to the belief that there can't be more than one God. And once such questions come to your mind, you can always try to find out more about monotheism. But once can't be acquitted if he doesn't make a any sincere effort.

In this regard, Allah s.w.t has given us a free will, as mentioned earlier by Fayax555 .

 

[Fayax555]

No Non-Muslim would want to leave his religion, and turn to Islam. There is no Islamic Education in some places of the world.
In some parts of Africa, people are starving and don't even have food. They won't even find out about Islam, let alone study and convert.
A Hindu in India, follows the teachings of his forefathers. His forefathers have been performing the same rituals for centuries. Why would he suddenly let go of everything, follow his heart, start researching Islam? There are so many religions in the world, is he supposed to study all of them?
Certainly, he won't be able to convert to Islam unless there is a preaching of all people in his area.

So, a Non-Muslim who doesn't turn to Islam due to being born in a Non-Muslim country (Which was not under his control), by having Non-Muslim parents (Which was also not under his control)..will be thrown into Hell, just because he was not lucky enough to be born Muslim.
And even if there is an instinct in his heart about the oneness of God, how can he reach that instinct? When he is surrounded by Hindus?
He won't turn unless Allah wants him to.
This entire concept baffles me.

Hinduism has many gods.
If there are more than one god, the world will not be like this.
You may know this, if you have watched any movie about Greek Mythology. In there myths there are many gods/goddesses, so there's always fight between them. And the world is always in chaos.
It is a thing that have to believed by every person who believes in a religion who has more than one god.

 

[Nabeel.Ahmad]

It is not about studying something. I's about having the belief that my Lord's One and Only. Preaching of course helps. But if a person sincerely ponders over his beliefs and practise, he can certainly come to the belief that there can't be more than one God. And once such questions come to your mind, you can always try to find out more about monotheism. But once can't be acquitted if he doesn't make a any sincere effort.

In this regard, Allah s.w.t has given us a free will, as mentioned earlier by Fayax555 .

Islam began in 571 A.D, after the Holy Prophet (pbuh) was born.
He preached the message of Allah, after receiving revelations. During his life, Makkah and Madinah was Islam-ized. Majority people converted to Islam. Islam expanded. After he departed from this world, the Caliphs also extended the Islamic empire preaching to other territories.
Eventually, Islam reached to Central Asia (pakistan, India) by the 8th Century.
Now, in the 21st Century. People who are born in these Islamic areas, are Muslims from birth, as they were born in areas which are Islamic. A person born in Makkah would definitely be a Muslim, as it is a 100% Muslim zone.
These people will live their life, follow teachings of Islam and commit sins too, and eventually after suffering punishment in Hell, they will go to Heaven as it is the eventual destination of all Muslims. (Already been decided).

But, not everyone is born in a Muslim zone. Islam was never preached in North-America. Today, only 0.8% people in United States are Muslims. Islam was never preached in United States, the way it was in Saudi Arabia. Had it been preached there too, won't there be a majority of Muslims there? And people born in the 21st Century, would be Muslims, like us.
Now these ''Non-Muslims'' would follow the religion taught by their parents, and the religion followed in their area. They would face the difficulties and hardships of life in context of their own religion. They do know about the existence of other religions, but why would they bother to research them? Why would they suddenly convert to Islam? It is completely illogical. A human being born with a definite religion will continue to follow that religion his entire life, without deviation. Only in a case when a preaching occurs, might a human shift to another religion. This is not like the old days when Hazrat Ibrahim (A.S) would go on journeys to search the meaning of life and look upon the sun and ask the question ''Is the sun the God?''.. and then ''Is the moon the God?''.. and eventually be instilled by guidance from Allah. This is a modern time, people stick to their religion, the religion followed by their family.
A Non-Muslim was born in a Non-Muslim country (Which was not in his control), and was born to Non-Muslim parents (Which wasn't under his control) and he was given the teaching of a specific (Non-Islamic) religion which was also not under his control. His entire life was spent following those teachings.
Why can he be expected to deviate from that path and convert to Islam, and only THEN go to heaven?
People keep saying it's because of the ignorance of the Non-Muslims that they will go to Hell. But it's because it's really hard for them to convert.
Someone might say that in the days of the Prophet (pbuh) people left their families to convert, that was a different time. Today's world is completely different. There is no preaching going on.

A person can not just start pondering over other religions. A person can not just let go of his religion and start researching other religions.

In conclusion, people who are born Muslims, in a muslim country is because that is what Allah wanted for them.
Those who are not bestowed with guidance, and are born with some other religion, are also that way because Allah created everything.

 

[Iridescent]

Islam began in 571 A.D, after the Holy Prophet (pbuh) was born.
He preached the message of Allah, after receiving revelations. During his life, Makkah and Madinah was Islam-ized. Majority people converted to Islam. Islam expanded. After he departed from this world, the Caliphs also extended the Islamic empire preaching to other territories.
Eventually, Islam reached to Central Asia (pakistan, India) by the 8th Century.
Now, in the 21st Century. People who are born in these Islamic areas, are Muslims from birth, as they were born in areas which are Islamic. A person born in Makkah would definitely be a Muslim, as it is a 100% Muslim zone.
These people will live their life, follow teachings of Islam and commit sins too, and eventually after suffering punishment in Hell, they will go to Heaven as it is the eventual destination of all Muslims. (Already been decided).

But, not everyone is born in a Muslim zone. Islam was never preached in North-America. Today, only 0.8% people in United States are Muslims. Islam was never preached in United States, the way it was in Saudi Arabia. Had it been preached there too, won't there be a majority of Muslims there? And people born in the 21st Century, would be Muslims, like us.
Now these ''Non-Muslims'' would follow the religion taught by their parents, and the religion followed in their area. They would face the difficulties and hardships of life in context of their own religion. They do know about the existence of other religions, but why would they bother to research them? Why would they suddenly convert to Islam? It is completely illogical. A human being born with a definite religion will continue to follow that religion his entire life, without deviation. Only in a case when a preaching occurs, might a human shift to another religion. This is not like the old days when Hazrat Ibrahim (A.S) would go on journeys to search the meaning of life and look upon the sun and ask the question ''Is the sun the God?''.. and then ''Is the moon the God?''.. and eventually be instilled by guidance from Allah. This is a modern time, people stick to their religion, the religion followed by their family.
A Non-Muslim was born in a Non-Muslim country (Which was not in his control), and was born to Non-Muslim parents (Which wasn't under his control) and he was given the teaching of a specific (Non-Islamic) religion which was also not under his control. His entire life was spent following those teachings.
Why can he be expected to deviate from that path and convert to Islam, and only THEN go to heaven?
People keep saying it's because of the ignorance of the Non-Muslims that they will go to Hell. But it's because it's really hard for them to convert.
Someone might say that in the days of the Prophet (pbuh) people left their families to convert, that was a different time. Today's world is completely different. There is no preaching going on.

A person can not just start pondering over other religions. A person can not just let go of his religion and start researching other religions.

In conclusion, people who are born Muslims, in a muslim country is because that is what Allah wanted for them.
Those who are not bestowed with guidance, and are born with some other religion, are also that way because Allah created everything.

It's not about accepting someone else's religion. It's about realising how wrong and illogical your beliefs and practises are. Once you realise that, you will try to find out the truth. And for such a person, there is only one destination i.e., Islam.

 

[Nabeel.Ahmad]

It's not about accepting someone else's religion. It's about realising how wrong and illogical your beliefs and practises are. Once you realise that, you will try to find out the truth. And for such a person, there is only one destination i.e., Islam.

But it's because we know the truth, and we know the true teachings of Islam, that's why we consider their teachings to be ''Illogical'' and ''wrong''.
A follower of those teachings would have respect for them, and would never consider them ''Illogical''.
No one considers his religion ''Illogical''.. as that has been followed for centuries in the area that person is from.

And person who is born a Muslim, does not have to go through this REALIZATION PROCESS. He can go straight to Heaven. After committing sins in this life, and getting punished for them in Hell.
While a person born as a Non-Muslim will have to be super-smart and intuitive and he would have to deny the religion his ancestors have been following for years, and be the outcast, and suffer and only then go to heaven as a MUSLIM. (Which no one does, and is nearly impossible, no one would deny his own faith and consider his forefathers belief's illogical).

In the old days, it was possible for a Non-Muslim to convert to Islam. When Islam was expanding, Muslim armies were going into Asia and conquering areas and people were converting. But in the 21st Century, this is not possible.

 

[Fayax555]

But it's because we know the truth, and we know the true teachings of Islam, that's why we consider their teachings to be ''Illogical'' and ''wrong''.
A follower of those teachings would have respect for them, and would never consider them ''Illogical''.
No one considers his religion ''Illogical''.. as that has been followed for centuries in the area that person is from.

And person who is born a Muslim, does not have to go through this REALIZATION PROCESS. He can go straight to Heaven. After committing sins in this life, and getting punished for them in Hell.
While a person born as a Non-Muslim will have to be super-smart and intuitive and he would have to deny the religion his ancestors have been following for years, and be the outcast, and suffer and only then go to heaven as a MUSLIM. (Which no one does, and is nearly impossible, no one would deny his own faith and consider his forefathers belief's illogical).

In the old days, it was possible for a Non-Muslim to convert to Islam. When Islam was expanding, Muslim armies were going into Asia and conquering areas and people were converting. But in the 21st Century, this is not possible.

No, there are Illogical things in other religions as I said before, some people in other religions had discovered those.
And, we don't know how much time a muslim will have to spend in hell. A Muslim might have to spend hundreds of years in hell, because of his sins.

 

[Toblerone]

It's not about accepting someone else's religion. It's about realising how wrong and illogical your beliefs and practises are. Once you realise that, you will try to find out the truth. And for such a person, there is only one destination i.e., Islam.

And how will those unbelievers realize that their practices are wrong?
Tell me honestly, how many religions have you studied? How much research you did on other religions? And if not, then WHY NOT?
Just as we all say that 'Our parents are the best parents in this world', similarly for every person their religion is the best.
Two girls on XPC Emma13 and E.H Jane accepted Islam, Masha'Allah. Why? Because they got a chance to study this religion. People influenced them, a few people here helped them understand the beauty of Islam. But the ones who are not surrounded by muslims keep practicing their own religion. They don't get a chance to know about it simply because they are not chosen by Allah.

 

[Iridescent]

But it's because we know the truth, and we know the true teachings of Islam, that's why we consider their teachings to be ''Illogical'' and ''wrong''.
A follower of those teachings would have respect for them, and would never consider them ''Illogical''.
No one considers his religion ''Illogical''.. as that has been followed for centuries in the area that person is from.

And person who is born a Muslim, does not have to go through this REALIZATION PROCESS. He can go straight to Heaven. After committing sins in this life, and getting punished for them in Hell.
While a person born as a Non-Muslim will have to be super-smart and intuitive and he would have to deny the religion his ancestors have been following for years, and be the outcast, and suffer and only then go to heaven as a MUSLIM. (Which no one does, and is nearly impossible, no one would deny his own faith and consider his forefathers belief's illogical).

In the old days, it was possible for a Non-Muslim to convert to Islam. When Islam was expanding, Muslim armies were going into Asia and conquering areas and people were converting. But in the 21st Century, this is not possible.

It can't be denied that it is hard for them but it is not impossible. People do realise and they do convert to Islam. It's because they want to seek the Truth. Those who blindly follow their faith can't be helped. and who says that Muslims do not have to go through the realisation process? Just pronouncing the Shahada is not the only thing required. We also need to have a firm belief in the Oneness of Allah and that every thing, good or bad, is from Him. And we need to live our lives according to the teachings of Islam.

As far as preaching is concerned, religious scholars do carry out Daw'ah but at present times it cannot be done by waging wars.
In the 21st century, people have more access to religious teachings through media.

 

[Nabeel.Ahmad]

And how will those unbelievers realize that their practices are wrong?
Tell me honestly, how many religions have you studied? How much research you did on other religions? And if not, then WHY NOT?
Just as we all say that 'Our parents are the best parents in this world', similarly for every person their religion is the best.
Two girls on XPC Emma13 and E.H Jane accepted Islam, Masha'Allah. Why? Because they got a chance to study this religion. People influenced them, a few people here helped them understand the beauty of Islam. But the ones who are not surrounded by muslims keep practicing their own religion. They don't get a chance to know about it simply because they are not chosen by Allah.

Exactly. Allah decided who get to be a Muslim and who doesn't.
Everything has been decreed by Allah before the Universe was even created.
The people who will be born muslims, those who won't be.
Muslims will go to HEAVEN. Non-Muslim's won't. (I'm not denying this, i'm just realizing that it's not their fault they weren't born Muslims)
Allah knows everything, and Life is an embodiment of Allah's will.

We don't know if Non-Muslims who are extremely good will go to heaven.
We don't know the extent to which factors like being born Non-Muslim will influence the final destination.
We don't know which muslims won't go to Heaven.

We don't know if a Non-Muslim who killed a million people, commited every sin possible, and then converted to Islam before dying will go to heaven or not.
Only ALLAH KNOWS!
So the answer to the VOTE CASTING THINGY is the first one.

But Allah knows best. He is the most merci-ful, for all we know He might forgive everyone. We never know.

 

[Fayax555]

Exactly. Allah decided who get to be a Muslim and who doesn't.
Everything has been decreed by Allah before the Universe was even created.
The people who will be born muslims, those who won't be.
Muslims will go to HEAVEN. Non-Muslim's won't. (I'm not denying this, i'm just realizing that it's not their fault they weren't born Muslims)
Allah knows everything, and Life is an embodiment of Allah's will.

We don't know if Non-Muslims who are extremely good will go to heaven.
We don't know the extent to which factors like being born Non-Muslim will influence the final destination.
We don't know which muslims won't go to Heaven.

We don't know if a Non-Muslim who killed a million people, commited every sin possible, and then converted to Islam before dying will go to heaven or not.
Only ALLAH KNOWS!
So the answer to the VOTE CASTING THINGY is the first one.

But Allah knows best. He is the most merci-ful, for all we know He might forgive everyone. We never know.

Allah will not Change the Condition of a People until They Change Themselves

 

[Toblerone]

Exactly. Allah decided who get to be a Muslim and who doesn't.
Everything has been decreed by Allah before the Universe was even created.
The people who will be born muslims, those who won't be.
Muslims will go to HEAVEN. Non-Muslim's won't. (I'm not denying this, i'm just realizing that it's not their fault they weren't born Muslims)
Allah knows everything, and Life is an embodiment of Allah's will.

We don't know if Non-Muslims who are extremely good will go to heaven.
We don't know the extent to which factors like being born Non-Muslim will influence the final destination.
We don't know which muslims won't go to Heaven.

We don't know if a Non-Muslim who killed a million people, commited every sin possible, and then converted to Islam before dying will go to heaven or not.
Only ALLAH KNOWS!
So the answer to the VOTE CASTING THINGY is the first one.

But Allah knows best. He is the most merci-ful, for all we know He might forgive everyone. We never know.

Wise words.
At least, there is someone who understands.

Who are we to decide this? It's Allah who knows.
This thread shouldn't have been created in the first place. We are not even sure if we'll go to heaven or not and people here are deciding who will and who won't.
Just sad!

 

[Nabeel.Ahmad]

Allah will not Change the Condition of a People until They Change Themselves

But it's not their fault they were born Non-Muslims.
Allah planned life for every single human.
For a Non-Muslim, he has already decreed when he will be born, where he will be born and what his life will be like.
Allah knows everything.
Whatever happens in life, is just what Allah has planned.
Truth is, we can NEVER understand the extent of Allah's plan. It's beyond our limited comprehension.

 

[Fayax555]

But it's not their fault they were born Non-Muslims.
Allah planned life for every single human.
For a Non-Muslim, he has already decreed when he will be born, where he will be born and what his life will be like.
Allah knows everything.
Whatever happens in life, is just what Allah has planned.
Truth is, we can NEVER understand the extent of Allah's plan. It's beyond our limited comprehension.

"No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim). It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Polytheist."