Why Islamic Studies?

[сᴏᴏʟ сяуѕтᴀʟѕ]

Again, you are so indoctrinated you feel the need to "ban" any others who have contradicting viewpoints. I hope you do not intend to apply to countries such as the UK or Canada for further studies...otherwise you will find it extremely difficult to adjust to the criticisms you will hear about Islam- you see, outside Saudi Arabia, outside Pakistan, people have something know as "freedom of speech"

i have one question to you...
everything in this world is working smoothly...so my question is...who does all this? how come the sun knows on it's OWN when it has to rise or set??? everyday the timings are different...how does it know that it's winter so it will rise late?
don't you think there should be a creator behind it?

 

[PhyZac]

Again, you are so indoctrinated you feel the need to "ban" any others who have contradicting viewpoints. I hope you do not intend to apply to countries such as the UK or Canada for further studies...otherwise you will find it extremely difficult to adjust to the criticisms you will hear about Islam- you see, outside Saudi Arabia, outside Pakistan, people have something know as "freedom of speech"

No one grabbed you here forcefully , I am serious no one did. You came gave your points , many refused then finish. End of story. Do you see us with no freedom, do u see us depressed and all. Me and many here aren't. So kindly be a productive member and give some chemistry notes I need them for my exam

 

[XPFMember]

He isnt saying he will ban you for sure. he is only saying that he can help you get out of this forum by banning you.
Please take some English lessons.

Considering, it was kinda difficult for him, I thought I'd help him

Meg paridhi shobhana I'm really sorry, your questions were ignored...
I think you can repost them here. I'll try to answer them soon InshaAllah...if I can..

 

[paridhi shobhana]

No one grabbed you here forcefully , I am serious no one did. You came gave your points , many refused then finish. End of story. Do you see us with no freedom, do u see us depressed and all. Me and many here aren't. So kindly be a productive member and give some chemistry notes I need them for my exam

try nt answer him , the more u do da more he will answer

 

[Enferno]

try nt answer him , the more u do da more he will answer

lol your right

 

[paridhi shobhana]

Considering, it was kinda difficult for him, I thought I'd help him

Meg paridhi shobhana I'm really sorry, your questions were ignored...
I think you can repost them here. I'll try to answer them soon InshaAllah...if I can..

i actaully supported u ppl i didnt have any question if ever i do i will ask u ppl ) iam sure u will all help

 

[PhyZac]

try nt answer him , the more u do da more he will answer

Actually he isn't that bad. He care alot for us. He himself is suffering from inside trying to show us HIS way of truth not knowing that we are in peace currently, and who want to leave this peace.
But again you are right. Thanks Jazak Allah.

 

[PhyZac]

Members, a question please.

Don't you see this man made us more unite?

 

[paridhi shobhana]

Actually he isn't that bad. He care alot for us. He himself is suffering from inside trying to show us HIS way of truth not knowing that we are in peace currently, and who want to leave this peace.
But again you are right. Thanks Jazak Allah.

i know he isnt bad he is nt trying to understand !!! so no use it will make all of us angry later on so just be quite BEST WAY of ignoring ppl and also helps to prevent from fight

 

[сᴏᴏʟ сяуѕтᴀʟѕ]

Members, a question please.

Don't you see this man made us more unite?

Assalam-o-alaikum wr wb...

yeahp...i agree!

THANX A LOT (i am sure he will read this, by making another account )

 

[Enferno]

Why don't ban his IP, so he cannot not make new accounts again and again?

 

[SweetSomebody]

Why don't ban his IP, so he cannot not make new accounts again and again?

It seems that his sole purpose for making new accounts is to insult Islam under the mask of freedom of speech, otherwise why would a 31-year-old be here anyway?!! He's so pathetic!!

 

[badrobot14]

Considering, it was kinda difficult for him, I thought I'd help him

Meg paridhi shobhana I'm really sorry, your questions were ignored...
I think you can repost them here. I'll try to answer them soon InshaAllah...if I can..

me is writing answer for Meg 's Slaughtering question..... coz I love Ibrahim(AS)
Alhamdulillah.

 

[XPFMember]

me is writing answer for Meg 's Slaughtering question..... coz I love Ibrahim(AS)
Alhamdulillah.

okk me will send u a piece i was thinking to share...that might help u

 

[Enferno]

It seems that his sole purpose for making new accounts is to insult Islam under the mask of freedom of speech, otherwise why would a 31-year-old be here anyway?!! He's so pathetic!!

Thats why I said ban His IP

 

[Saad (سعد)]

Yes, in this forum, which is dominated by muslims, there is nobody who will accept my arguments. But remember this, the majority of the non-islamic world supports my views. You need to wake up and re-assess the REAL situation.

No, the majority of the Zionist State of Israel and Zionist State of Israeliophiliac Truthophobes supports your views. That's because your own Lord lets you do that, so you can enjoy yourself and find 'peace' in your own baseless, illogical, biased, lies for the 40-80 year-old life you may live. He allows the wrongdoers to increase in their wrongdoing, so that He, the Judgest of Judges, can have ample evidence against them when they would show up in His Court on the Day of Resurrection.

You, and your Zionist State of Israelophiliac friends need a little reminder;

And We conveyed to the Children of Israel in the Scripture (the Torah) that, "You will surely cause corruption on the earth twice, and you will surely reach [a degree of] great haughtiness.
So when the [time of] promise came for the first of them, We sent against you servants of Ours – those of great military might, and they probed [even] into the homes, and it was a promise fulfilled. [Qur'an 17:4-5]

I'm sure you remember Nebuchadnezzar, right?

But then, Allah returned His favor to the Children of Israel.

Then We gave back to you a return victory over them. And We reinforced you with wealth and sons and made you more numerous in manpower.
[And said], "If you do good, you do good for yourselves; and if you do evil, [you do it] to yourselves." Then when the final promise came, [We sent your enemies] to sadden your faces and to enter the temple in Jerusalem, as they entered it the first time, and to destroy what they had taken over with [total] destruction.[Qur'an 17:6-7]

I'm sure to you remember Titus the Roman, right?

Now, once again, the Children of Israel have returned to their Truthophobiac endeavors; and you, based on your avatar, are obviously a supporter. Once again, the Zionist State of Israel and their feet-lickers like you are at the top of the food chain; for a limited time. You have the wealth, the manpower, the sons.

Don't worry; Allah destroyed them the first time He promised their destruction in the Torah; and He destroyed them the second time He promised their destruction in the Torah. But they just didn't learn; Allah has already promised, that He would return to His way - punishing them for their sins by annihilating them again - if they return to their ways, of evil and corruption. They did return/are returning to their ways, now it is only a matter of time that Allah returns to His.

[Then Allah said], "It is expected, [if you repent], that your Lord will have mercy upon you. But if you return [to sin], We will return [to punishment]. And We have made Hell, for the disbelievers, a prison-bed." [Qur'an 17:8]

As for the majority of the non-Islamic world supporting your views; let's recap, shall we?

Islam - almost 2 billion adherents. More than a fifth of the global population.
Islam- largest religion in terms of practicing adherents. (Most Christians are non-practicing).
Islam - fastest spreading religion in the world.
Islam - fastest spreading religion in America of all places; unanimously. Where is the most discriminated against.
Islam - all those who have ever opposed it, at any time in history, have either been forgotten by history or become immortally cursed in it.
Islam - whose adherents just slapped your Illumanati-mind-slaved 'enlightened' self from utter stupidity into utter idiocracy; 16 pages straight of this thread, and tens of pages in another thread. And they did it all logically.
Islam - whose adherents are the reason you have the knowledge you and your Zionist State of Israelophiliac buddies are so arrogant over; Algorithms came out of Al-Khawarizmi; and Algebra came from his book Al-Jabr. We took the sine from the Indians and developed cosine, tangent and practically every other trigonometric ratio; we invented the Astrolabe, we were the first to develop proper systems of navigation, we proposed that the Earth was geospherical, we calculated the circumference of the Earth accurately for the first time, it was Ibn Sina's books on medicine that were taught in European schools for six centuries straight, and it was Jabar ibn Hayyan who revolutionized (if not invented) alchemy and became known as 'the Father of Chemistry/Alchemy'. We were cleaning our selves with soap and wearing proper garments while you Europeans preferred to sleep naked in animal waste, and we were removing cataracts surgically while Europeans while trying to get their priests to exorcise them. And need I start on this?

Of course the majority - not all - of the non-Islamic world would be opposing us. They're freakin' jealous. They know they, like you, are planning a losing plan.

Allah is the ally of those who believe. He brings them out from darknesses into the light. And those who disbelieve – their allies are taghūt (evil). They take them out of the light into darknesses. Those are the companions of the Fire; they will abide eternally therein. [Qur'an 2:257]

So please, if you aren't here to learn Islam like the two kind non-Muslim girls are obviously doing, then take your Zionist-State-of-Israelophiliac butt away from this forum and go kiss the ground walked upon by your Zionist Devils' feet elsewhere.

We tried to deal with you kindly, but people like you, obviously fit the description;-

They have hearts with which they do not understand, they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear. Those are like livestock; rather, they are more astray. It is they who are the heedless. [Qur'an 7:179]

May Allah save us all who have believed in Him, from being among the heedless, and may He guide us all towards the Straight Way, and make us all die as believers and unite us all with the Saliheen. Ameen, birahmatika ya Arhamar-Rahimeen.

 

[SweetSomebody]

Actually this happens after Ramadan. First of all, ur aware that most of the ppl in the world eat meat and the thing that differs is the way of preparation. In Islam cattle should be slaughtered for two reasons. The first one is to get rid of all the blood because blood can cause serious diseases if consumed such as mad cow, salmonella, Ecoli, etc. The second one is to minimise the amount of time the animal can feel pain. Beheading cattle means they will only be conscious for 10 seconds maximum while other ways used by some western catering companies such as killing it by electric shocks will cause the animal to suffer more. Animals should never be slaughtered in front of each other and the process should be quick. This means that this way is, not only the healthiest, but the most humane way as well.
Guys please correct me if I'm wrong

As for the sects in Islam there are more than two, there are 72 to be accurate but the most well-known ones are the Sunni and Shia. Other religions such as Christianity and Judaism have many sects as well.

i was going to say the same thing

 

[badrobot14]

Okay another question!
Umm during Ramzan..
Goat's are beheaded.
I know the story behind it that Ibrahim was willing to give his son to Allah but was instead asked to give the goat!
But umm isnt Goat killing a rather gruesome practise?
I understand the significant religious reasons behind it, but are they still valid in today's present times?
I love animals as well, hence this is the ONLY practise of Islam that I find hard to support.
Can someone suggest the current relevance and importance of this practise?

Haha good question.. I used to wonder the same as a kid (actually I didn't even had the heart to look at our animal being slaughtered) until I discovered the gems in Quran..... also I understood more clearly when the first time I slaughterd my own cow!! (I know you must be thinking how gross.. but really you need a lot of courage to do it for the first time... and if your intention is pure it is some experience)

(I could tell you the scientific benefits of slaughtering from neck like the muslims do, but instead I’ll explain from a muslim perspective first)

You know the heart of Islam is submission to our creator, owner, master... Allah, the one who gives us to eat and drink, the one who cures me when I get sick... The epitome of submission from the past prophets is Ibrahim (AS)... that's why one of the pillars of Islamic worship (Hajj) is dedicated to him.

Now I'd like to share translation of a part from Quran that i personally love:

(the background of this part of story is that Ibrahim(AS) has been kicked out of his land by his people for preaching Islam... another thing you must note is when Prophets see dreams it is from Allah i.e His command)

And [then] he said, "Indeed, I will go to [where I am ordered by] my Lord; He will guide me.

My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."

So We gave him good tidings of a forbearing boy.

And when he reached with him [the age of] exertion, he said, "O my son, indeed I have seen in a dream that I [must] sacrifice you, so see what you think." He said, "O my father, do as you are commanded. You will find me, if Allah wills, of the steadfast."

And when they had both submitted and he put him down upon his forehead,

We called to him, "O Abraham,

You have fulfilled the vision." Indeed, We thus reward the doers of good.

Indeed, this was the clear trial.

And We ransomed him with a great sacrifice,

And We left for him [favorable mention] among later generations:

"Peace upon Abraham."

Indeed, We thus reward the doers of good.

Indeed, he was of Our believing servants.

(37: 99 - 111)

Points to note in the story: a.) Ibrahim (A.S) really loved his son coz he actually made a prayer to Allah for a child… also because that age when a child starts helping his father in little things is the age when a father’s heart blossoms when he sees his child.

b.) The meaning of the phrase " and he put him down upon his forehead '' is: he placed him facedown so that he could slaughter him from behind, and not have to see his face at the time of slaughter, so that it would be easier for him. (Notice the love of Ibrahim (AS) for his son)

This act isnot a small thing... even the Examiner, Allah, mentions “, this was the clear trial”… plus notice how when he got the command he did not say ‘Allah I really love my son, please leave him for me…you made my son and you are free of need, so why take him?’ NO, NOTHING like that... He knows Allah is the just, most wise, most merciful, the source of all good…. So if Allah ordered something, it doesn’t have to make sense to him, he just must be sure that the command really is from Allah… if it is, then we submit no questions asked!

Now us Muslims have been commanded by Allah that (if we can afford) at hajj time each year we buy and we sacrifice an animal (cow, camel, goat, sheep etc.) in the name of Allah and eat from it and feed the needy and poor from it as well. This is an act of obedience to Allah, just like Ibrahim (AS) did (although his was a huge sacrifice) following his footsteps. I know that what Allah orders is best for me, for the animal and everyone… No matter how gruesome it looks.
"Their meat will not reach Allah , nor will their blood, but what reaches Him is piety from you. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may glorify Allah for that [to] which He has guided you; and give good tidings to the doers of good." (22:37)
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If you love scientific facts here is a list:

Question:

Why do Muslims slaughter the animal in a ruthless manner by torturing it and slowly and painfully killing it?

Answer:
The Islamic method of slaughtering animals, known as Zabiha has been the object of much criticism from a large number of people. One may consider the following points, which prove that the Zabiha method is not only humane but also scientifically the best:

1. Islamic method of slaughtering animal
Zakkaytum is a verb derived from the root word Zakah (to purify). Its infinitive is Tazkiyah which means purification. The Islamic mode of slaughtering an animal requires the following conditions to be met:

a. Animal should be slaughtered with sharp object (knife)
The animal has to be slaughtered with a sharp object (knife) and in a fast way so that the pain of slaughter is minimised.

b. Cut wind pipe, throat and vessels of neck
Zabiha is an Arabic word which means ‘slaughtered’. The‘slaughtering’ is to be done by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck causing the animal’s death without cutting the spinal cord.

c. Blood should be drained
The blood has to be drained completely before the head is removed. The purpose is to drain out most of the blood which would serve as a good culture medium for micro organisms. The spinal cord must not be cut because the nerve fibres to the heart could be damaged during the process causing cardiac arrest, stagnating the blood in the blood vessels.

2. Blood is a good medium for germs and bacteria
Blood is a good media of germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. Therefore the Muslim way of slaughtering is more hygienic as most of the blood containing germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. that are the cause of several diseases are eliminated.

3. Meat remains fresh for a longer time
Meat slaughtered by Islamic way remains fresh for a longer time due to deficiency of blood in the meat as compared to other methods of slaughtering.


4. Animal does not feel pain
The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal struggles, writhers, shakes and kicks, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles defecient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.

 

[iblue]

Haha good question.. I used to wonder the same as a kid (actually I didn't even have the heart to look at our animal being slaughtered) until I discovered the gems in Quran..... also I understood more clearly when the first time I slaughterd my own cow!! (I know you must be thinking how gross.. but really you need a lot of courage to do it for the first time... and if your intention is pure it is some experience)

(I could tell you the scientific benefits of slaughtering from neck like the muslims do, but instead I’ll explain from a muslim perspective first)

You know the heart of Islam is submission to our creator, owner, master... Allah, the one who gives us to eat and drink, the one who cures me when I get sick... The epitome of submission from the past prophets is Ibrahim (AS)... that's why one of the pillars of Islamic worship (Hajj) is dedicated to him.

Now I'd like to share translation of a part from Quran that i personally love:

(the background of this part of story is that Ibrahim(AS) has been kicked out of his land by his people for preaching Islam... another thing you must note is when Prophets see dreams it is from Allah i.e His command)

And [then] he said, "Indeed, I will go to [where I am ordered by] my Lord; He will guide me.

My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."

So We gave him good tidings of a forbearing boy.

And when he reached with him [the age of] exertion, he said, "O my son, indeed I have seen in a dream that I [must] sacrifice you, so see what you think." He said, "O my father, do as you are commanded. You will find me, if Allah wills, of the steadfast."

And when they had both submitted and he put him down upon his forehead,

We called to him, "O Abraham,

You have fulfilled the vision." Indeed, We thus reward the doers of good.

Indeed, this was the clear trial.

And We ransomed him with a great sacrifice,

And We left for him [favorable mention] among later generations:

"Peace upon Abraham."

Indeed, We thus reward the doers of good.

Indeed, he was of Our believing servants.

(37: 99 - 111)

Points to note in the story: a.) Ibrahim (A.S) really loved his son coz he actually made a prayer to Allah for a child… also because that age when a child starts helping his father in little things is the age when a father’s heart blossoms when he sees his child.

b.) The meaning of the phrase " and he put him down upon his forehead '' is: he placed him facedown so that he could slaughter him from behind, and not have to see his face at the time of slaughter, so that it would be easier for him. (Notice the love of Ibrahim (AS) for his son)

This act isnot a small thing... even the Examiner, Allah, mentions “, this was the clear trial”… plus notice how when he got the command he did not say ‘Allah I really love my son, please leave him for me…you made my son and you are free of need, so why take him?’ NO, NOTHING like that... He knows Allah is the just, most wise, most merciful, the source of all good…. So if Allah ordered something, it doesn’t have to make sense to him, he just must be sure that the command really is from Allah… if it is, then we submit no questions asked!

Now us Muslims have been commanded by Allah that (if we can afford) at hajj time each year we buy and we sacrifice an animal (cow, camel, goat, sheep etc.) in the name of Allah and eat from it and feed the needy and poor from it as well. This is an act of obedience of Allah, just like Ibrahim (AS) did (although his was a huge sacrifice) following his footsteps. I know that what Allah orders is best for me, for the animal and everyone… No matter how gruesome it looks.
"Their meat will not reach Allah , nor will their blood, but what reaches Him is piety from you. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may glorify Allah for that [to] which He has guided you; and give good tidings to the doers of good." (22:37)
-----------------

If you love scientific facts here is a list:

Question:

Why do Muslims slaughter the animal in a ruthless manner by torturing it and slowly and painfully killing it?

Answer:
The Islamic method of slaughtering animals, known as Zabiha has been the object of much criticism from a large number of people. One may consider the following points, which prove that the Zabiha method is not only humane but also scientifically the best:

1. Islamic method of slaughtering animal
Zakkaytum is a verb derived from the root word Zakah (to purify). Its infinitive is Tazkiyah which means purification. The Islamic mode of slaughtering an animal requires the following conditions to be met:

a. Animal should be slaughtered with sharp object (knife)
The animal has to be slaughtered with a sharp object (knife) and in a fast way so that the pain of slaughter is minimised.

b. Cut wind pipe, throat and vessels of neck
Zabiha is an Arabic word which means ‘slaughtered’. The‘slaughtering’ is to be done by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck causing the animal’s death without cutting the spinal cord.

c. Blood should be drained
The blood has to be drained completely before the head is removed. The purpose is to drain out most of the blood which would serve as a good culture medium for micro organisms. The spinal cord must not be cut because the nerve fibres to the heart could be damaged during the process causing cardiac arrest, stagnating the blood in the blood vessels.

2. Blood is a good medium for germs and bacteria
Blood is a good media of germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. Therefore the Muslim way of slaughtering is more hygienic as most of the blood containing germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. that are the cause of several diseases are eliminated.

3. Meat remains fresh for a longer time
Meat slaughtered by Islamic way remains fresh for a longer time due to deficiency of blood in the meat as compared to other methods of slaughtering.


4. Animal does not feel pain
The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal struggles, writhers, shakes and kicks, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles defecient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.

jazakAllah khairan i didnt knw some of the info u mentioned

 

[smzimran]

badrobot14:
^ You typed all this down ?

Well, it is a very good explanation indeed!
JazakAllah