Why Islamic Studies?

[badrobot14]

Your response is very similar to that of that "Zakir Naik" fool when asked about Al Qeda. Well I AM SURE you are aware of the severe violations of human rights they comitted 24/7 during their rule in Afghanistan. Do not say you do not know them. Just like I did not personally know Hitler, I know for a fact the bastard was a criminal. You too have an adequate IQ to make a judgement.
However, your hesitation to express your feelings just prove that you actually advocate what the Taliban are fighting for. People ike you are the reason we have war on this earth. You need to remove your narrow minded mindset and realise that Sharia Law DOES NOT BELONG in the 21st Century. Get real.

Now you are wrong, being a muslim I speak in stern terms against opression of any kind BUT I don't trust TV for everything neither do I watch it (i've better things to do than news)... plus I don't know any one from TAliban nor are they near me (so that I can witness what they do, or someone reliable to tell me of their practices)... I've never researched on them... So I don't pass judgement without knowledge so I shut up; rather I say if someone innocent is killed its wrong; must be condemned....@!!!
You do know Quran actually speaks against the evil practice of the old arabs who used to burry their daughter alive coz they thought it was a stain on their manhood?? (Female infanticide) "And when the girl [who was] buried alive is asked For what sin she was killed" (81:8-9)
Islam speaks against opression.. you just fail to notice it!

about Shariah (which literally means a well trodden path that leads to water):
do you know that shariah actually tells a person to be kind to his parents....??? to be just..? to NOT cheat in business etc...??? I guess Shariah is not for 21st centuary.... why don't you start going against shariah from now on.. m sure it'll be a peaceful world (sarcasm intended).... start preaching it.
Either know shariah law or don't speak about something you have no idea of. Sincere advice.

Is that why the Taliban do not want women to study beyond the age of 14, that too if they are lucky?? Is that why if a woman has sex with somebody else other than her husband, she is STONED to death? Is that why women are forced to wear Burkhas when they go outside?

who said taliban were the Ideal muslims....????? and the fourteen years thing.. show me prrof from Islam about that NOT what the taliban do or say.. who cares about them.

about your stoning thing.. it applies to only if a married person (even if its a man) commits adultry under a Islamic state. (for singles the law is only to flog them )

BUT our law is the only law that actually tries NOT to punish someone, rather hide the immorality.... PROOF:

The scholars have listed the ways of establishing proof of zina(adultery/fornification), and there are four ways:

1- Testimony of witnesses

2- Admission by the parties concerned

3- Pregnancy of a woman who has no husband or master

4- If the husband engages in li’aan and the wife refuses to take part in li’aan

With regard to witnesses to zina, they should be four people whose testimony is acceptable (meaning upright honest people), and they should state that they have seen the zina in clear terms, i.e., they should have seen the ***********. If some of them only testify that they saw them naked, or they describe certain positions or movements, that is not sufficient to proof that zina took place.
They should describe zina in clear terms, such as saying: “I saw *********”. There is no alternative to that. If they say: “We saw him on top of her and they were naked”, that is not acceptable
This strictness with regard to testimony about zina serves only to achieve the purpose aimed at by sharee’ah, which is to conceal people and not spread immorality, and to make societies avoid accusations against people’s honour and aspersions on their lineages.

Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Jaami’ li Ahkaam al-Qur’aan (5/83):
Allaah has stated that testimony in a case of zina must be given by four people, so as to make it hard for those who are testifying to such a thing, and to conceal people. End quote.
again posting a video, I think you missed:

 

[Nibz]

I don't think all this is appropriate here. There are students (under 18) who come here to learn something, FGS.

 

[PhyZac]

I don't think all this is appropriate here. There are students (under 18) who come here to learn something, FGS.

Assalam Alikum,

I totally agree, this will create confusion, WE as students aren't mature enough to know exactly whats happening around and thus can be easily mislead. Please do have an action, like deleting the thread or deleting some posts which aren't really required.

Jazak Allah anyway.

 

[badrobot14]

Assalam Alikum,

I totally agree, this will create confusion, WE as students aren't mature enough to know exactly whats happening around and thus can be easily mislead. Please do have an action, like deleting the thread or deleting some posts which aren't really required.

Jazak Allah anyway.

w.salam,
can you point out the posts that should be deleted..???

 

[MysteRyGiRl]

w.salam,
can you point out the posts that should be deleted..???

i think editing should be enuf

 

[badrobot14]

i think editing should be enuf

edited my post... is it ok now..??

the reason I reply is truth is clear from falsehood... there is nothing shady about Islam;
“Rather We dash the truth upon falsehood and it destroys it and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe (al Anbiya 21:18)

 

[PhyZac]

w.salam,
can you point out the posts that should be deleted..???

Those - actually those are ones which have links in them, those link once opened people with low faith start doubt and link after link they might lose there iman!! I have seen many. [Rest all are common arguments with proved replies Jazakum Allah]
http://www.xtremepapers.com/communi...ke-pakistani-studies.16029/page-2#post-276375

http://www.xtremepapers.com/communi...ke-pakistani-studies.16029/page-2#post-275856

http://www.xtremepapers.com/communi...ke-pakistani-studies.16029/page-6#post-289162

http://www.xtremepapers.com/communi...e-pakistani-studies.16029/page-10#post-291787

 

[arlery]

Y
You just changed your previous statement where you claimed "Talibans" werent Muslims at all. Now, due to the terrorist Taliban supporters around you, you too have given in- talk about double standards! You are a joke Salmanpak.

The Talibans are NOT Muslims but are zealots. They kill in the name of God and enforce their ideas on everyone whereas that is NOT what Islam is about. So if a person started calling himself Nepali and started open manslaughter and crimes in the name of your religion, would it make him amongst one of you? Should we then believe that is what your religion teaches you all?
At least have the decency to get your facts right before accusing everyone and everything around you. None of the information you've provided is right, none of your so called 'videos' are true and you're still stubbornly stuck on picking out faults on Islam, and when reasoned out, you bring out new issues not even BOTHERING to look at the previous issues you were all hyped up about. At least have the courage to take back your words when proven wrong, Mister.
Its pathetic really.

 

[badrobot14]

Those - actually those are ones which have links in them, those link once opened people with low faith start doubt and link after link they might lose there iman!! I have seen many. [Rest all are common arguments with proved replies Jazakum Allah]
http://www.xtremepapers.com/communi...ke-pakistani-studies.16029/page-2#post-276375

http://www.xtremepapers.com/communi...ke-pakistani-studies.16029/page-2#post-275856

http://www.xtremepapers.com/communi...ke-pakistani-studies.16029/page-6#post-289162

http://www.xtremepapers.com/communi...e-pakistani-studies.16029/page-10#post-291787

taken care of... Alhamdulillah.

 

[multixamza01]

I heard they were giving free Samosas here!

 

[multixamza01]

YOU ARE WRONG.
I AM RIGHT. I AM ADVOCATING FOR FREEDOM AND PEACE. YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR OPPRESION OF WOMEN, KILLING OF FOREIGNERS AND OTHER DESTRUCTIVE BELIEFS. YOU ARE JUST SO DELLUSIONAL YOU CANT SEE CLEARLY. IF YOU WERE IN MY POSITION, YOU TOO, LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD BE CRITICAL OF THE SO CALLED RELIGION OF PEACE.

Man you are so KE\/\/L , you should be given a Nobel Prize for your KE\/\/L-ness

JK , mate , you suck !

 

[badrobot14]

I heard they were giving free Samosas here!

I think you meant to go here:
http://www.xtremepapers.com/community/threads/xpc-contest-2012-coming-soon.15880/

 

[smzimran]

That's fake. My Allah knows that I send him no such P.M.

Yes, i know thats fake!
The font is the first proof and secondly, how'd salman know he would create another account and p.m him before he announces his presence here!

 

[badrobot14]

let's stay on topic here.. or better lets go study


m off... to study MOM(mechanics of machines....! )

 

[arlery]

let's stay on topic here.. or better lets go study


m off... to study MOM(mechanics of machines....! )

Hahaha this thread is under off topic.

 

[paridhi shobhana]

It seems many students are currently interested in Pakistan studies, particularly in its Islamic aspects. I would like to express some of my views regarding this with you all.

I feel Islam is a very regimented religion, forcing its followers to conform to strict guidelines on how to lead their own lives- every aspect of life is instructed in Islam without any proper logic but is rather based heavily on brainwashing and DOs and DON'Ts. FATWA, BURKHA, WIFE BEATING,KAFIR,INFIDELS,MADRASSA, JIHAD, BLASPHEMY, and MYTHS considered as truth etc; all these are the hallmarks of Islam. It's against freedom, free thinking and humanity. For example the killing of kafirs and infidels is promoted in Islam.
With that said, I would like to go on to say that I feel that ALL religions should cease to exist. We humans of this planet were made to live together in harmony, but instead are divided by RELIGION. There must only be 1 religion, and that is the religion of Humanity where everybody is able to choose freely their own way of life, without having to conform to a book for guidance or instructions.

"After all, life has no other meaning than what you give it"- TheNepaliWarrior, 2012, XtremePapersForum

I dnt think u have the rights to tell others religion isnt good just try nt to talk like this future especially IN PUBLIC the proverb is well said :THINK BEFORE U SPEAK

 

[Executor]

AND ZAKIR NAIK IS MUCH WORSE THAN A FOOL.

Now that statement is just more than provocative and then YOU complain that we (muslims) never have conversation without any aggression. How are we supposed to react when you call us and our scholars fools? Please learn to respect the faith and opinions of other people. You are making it more impossible for us to have a healthy conversation.

 

[mercedes008]

Praise be to Allah
Peace be upon all of you
My brothers and sisters, i believe this discussion has gone on long enough, it is our duty to propagate and we are fulfilling it, the other person's ignorance is their own problem, Allah rightly says, "Allah has placed a seal on their hearts . . " and this is the clear example which is in front of us. now if Allah wills, he will surely distinguish between the truth and falsehood. I pray that Allah guides him.
and p.s : just so you don't get into an argument about the above quoted verse, it is not Allah who does that because He wants because He is Just, and in the sense you can never imagine about, this seal is due to arrogance or whatsoever other reasons there may be. Thankyou
Peace.

 

[Meg]

SalmanPakRocks

I dont want to be controversial at all.
I am really fond of religions so just a few questions on Islam out of mere curiosity?

I respect the fact that women are asked to wear Burkhas to prevent them from being subjected to the lustful eyes of other men.
But I wanted to know why does a Muslim man have the right to marry four wives?
And why is it easier to divorce based on a Man's will than a Women's? I read about a divorce occuring if a man says Talak 3 times. Is it true?
And why were women not permitted to be educated? There must be a reason behind it right?
And why were men and women circumcised?

Islam is one of my favorite religions <3
It's history is fascinating!
But these questions arose in my mind so just posted!
Dont mean to be offensive. Just curious.
Please answer them if you can

 

[iblue]

And why were women not permitted to be educated? There must be a reason behind it right?

Please answer them if you can

I can tell u that this is not true.. im a girl and educated.. During the time of Prophet Muhammad PBUH women had a leading role in educating Muslim men, there were female doctors, teachers , even warriors. There were many famous Muslim female scientists during the middle ages such as Maryam Al-Asturlabi (there r others but thats the only one i remember right now). Islam encourages women education even if she has no interest in working even if she wants to be a housewife because in order to raise broad minded useful children who can contribute to the world when they grow up the mother needs to have a high level of education. What western media says about the prohibition of female education in Islam is totally utterly not true and is against the teachings of Islam.